America doesn't want your High Tech jobs

http://www.anybeat.com/public_square/4eb1cf5903605d76af0000fe/Politics/4f4a179adda88043e9001bd0

by pentae • 14 years ago

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mirsadm• 14 years ago

I am from Australia and currently in Canada on a work visa. It was so easy to get (a 2 year visa) and have been enjoying living outside of Australia. Every time I have looked into working in the US it is so difficult that I don't even bother applying.

The funny thing is we also got a 2 year tourist visa for the US so we can could travel around. It was such a painful process. You have to get there as early as possible or you will wait for hours. My appointment was at 9am but I got my visa at 11am. I arrived there at 7am. Once you go through security you cannot leave otherwise you lose your spot. They don't have toilets there so you're screwed if you have to go. I had to bring a gazillion documents proving I could support myself and it was all so unwelcoming.

I have always felt uneasy travelling through the US. It is almost as if they assume everybody is trying to smuggle themselves into the country to stay permanently.

The US government needs to chill.

darxius• 14 years ago

Sorry for not adding anything of intellect, but I couldn't agree more.

joejohnson• 14 years ago

There's too issues here:

1) It is too difficult to gain citizenship in the USA. We should make this process easier and attract people with high-tech degrees.

2) Our corporate tax rate is not too high. Think of all of the protections and benefits that this tax rate can afford businesses and citizens in the US. There are numerous examples, but we have a lot of public infrastructure that Singapore does not because of our high tax rate.

ChuckMcM4• 14 years ago

This is anti-obama / pro-republican propaganda. (Your first clue is the mention of 'Obamacare' as a reason for not working in the US, the second is 'high corporate taxes' meme).

shingen• 14 years ago

I'm indifferent to the partisan arguing. However, I've spent most of my life as a self employed business owner. So let's talk about the real high taxes meme that nobody ever wants to talk about.

My federal + SECA + state combined tax rate hits 37% at $50,000 per year in income. I have few deductions.

I'd like to see you justify me paying nearly 40% in taxes out of my income starting at $50k per year. And that doesn't count the zillion other taxes I pay throughout the course of existing. That's the thanks I get for trying to start a business and create value in the American economy. I get absolutely drilled by taxation.

ChuckMcM4• 14 years ago

I would love to hear more about this. Did you create a corporation or were you a sole proprietor/owner operator?

foobarbazetc• 14 years ago

I upvoted you because this sort of thing shouldn't be anywhere near News.YC.

"owing to Obamacare"? Really? You mean employers weren't paying employee health care before Obama?

You have to LOL at the reasoning in this article, and the poorly reasoned/thought out tirade against "liberals".

Wait, you mean, Singapore created all these incentives ... because of Obama, right?

The funniest thing about the "Obamacare" thing in this post is that the author is actually arguing for universal health care (guess what Singapore has? :). You're essentially offloading your corporate health care costs onto the government. Hehe.

ChuckMcM4• 14 years ago

The OP completely missed the EB-5 program which is less a visa and more like free citizenship. And while the initial investment can't be borrowed, it can come from investors. But those investors specifically have to get equity rather than a promissory note to repay them.

Getting a EIN is also trivial, I got one on my phone, while signing up for a bank account for my LLC. It was just that quick and easy.

simplefish2• 14 years ago

The point being made is that the health care costs in the US are very high. The author editorializes that this is "due to Obamacare". Costs were high before Obamacare, and they're higher now, and non-partisan projections (CBO, etc.) indicate they're going higher still. How you want to apportion blame is up to you - the fact that costs are high is inarguable. So is the fact that it costs jobs.

Also, you apparently don't know much about Singapore. Their (quite excellent) health care system works by forced savings - it's not, in any way, "socialized medicine" as the term is used in the US.

In fact, government spending on health care in Singapore is around 3-4% of GDP. Government spending on health care in the US is approximately twice that, as a share of GDP. So yeah, moving from the US system to the Singapore system would be "offloading your corporate health care costs onto the government" if by that you mean "transferring health care costs from the government to the private sector".

But please, don't let me get in the way of a good partisan food fight.

(And as for the "meme" that high taxes in the US aren't really killing jobs... Let's see, unemployment in Singapore these days is around 2%. What's your explanation?)

Turing_Machine• 14 years ago

The 'high corporate taxes meme' is 'anti-Obama'? Then why does Obama himself wants to reduce them?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/obama-proposes-corporate-tax...

Granted, he doesn't want to reduce them as much as the Republicans do, but he does think they're too high.

America doesn't want your High Tech jobs

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