Exhaustive list of credible voices vouching for David Grusch and/or Claims

https://github.com/qrdlgit/misc/blob/main/vouch.md

by blazespin • 3 years ago

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david-gpu3• 3 years ago

What I find most surprising about this is that Leslie Kean, Ralph Blumenthal and other journalists at The Debrief corroborate that David Grusch has testified to Congress under oath and provided hundreds of pages of classified documentation to support his claims.

It is not difficult for journalists of this caliber to confirm this, either. It is then fair to say that we know this as a fact. Lying under oath has serious consequences, so it is unlikely that he would do that.

The main remaining question then is what has he testified to Congress? Is it essentially the same story he has revealed to the public? It is hard to imagine a scenario in which he has told the public one story but then a different one to Congress.

In any case, this deserves further investigation.

TechBro8615• 3 years ago

Lying under oath has serious consequences

Does it? I mean in practice, not on paper.

op00to2• 3 years ago

What’s special about testifying to Congress? Thousands (like 6000+) of people testify to Congress each year.

Did he submit any pictures of spacemen or their space ships? Certainly not. This whole thing is so tiresome.

david-gpu3• 3 years ago

Did he submit any pictures of spacemen or their space ships?

Ask yourself for a moment what would you have said if he had shown images of crafts. Would you have taken that as evidence in support of his claims, or would you have dismissed them immediately like you dismiss his sworn testimony?

Going a step further, what sort of evidence would you find adequate, not to convince you, but to warrant further investigation? Is that evidence classified? Because if it is, it will first need to be declassified, and that won't happen unless the public demands it, and that requires that the public first considers the possibility that the evidence may exist in the first place.

Back to your question, according to several reputable journalists, Grusch declared under oath, offered corroborating documentation, including project names, people involved in those projects and locations. The DOD has explicitly disallowed him from sharing pictures and some other information with the public.

And he is not alone. It's been reported that two dozen witnesses have declared to Congress under oath in closed sessions with regards to UFOs over the past couple of years, some of whom have come out publicly to confirm they did so.

nightowl_games• 3 years ago

Other option are that he's crazy, he's a psyop, or he's a mkultra victim. I'm not joking.

CyberDildonics• 3 years ago

It isn't in the title and is at the bottom of the link, but this is about UFOs. No evidence, just claims.

netsharc• 3 years ago

If I throw my shoe from a plane and people don't know what it is, it's an object, it's flying, and to them it's unidentified: my shoe is a UFO.

As the article open on my second window says, it's about claims of a craft of non-human/extra-terresterial origin.

Not that I'm invested in it, personally my mind will be very blown if it's confirmed, but at the moment I'm treating it like claims of an apparation of Mary, mother of Jesus.

IMcD23• 3 years ago

I feel very out of the loop here. Who is this person, and why is it necessary for people to vouch for them?

meepmorp• 3 years ago

He's the supposed whistleblower claiming that the US has intact alien vehicles.

zoklet-enjoyer• 3 years ago

Same. Never heard of him

wiml• 3 years ago

He's an (ex?) intelligence guy who's come forward saying the government has retrieved craft of "non-human origin". Whether that means Grey Aliens, dolphins, or Sleestaks, I don't think we know.

nradov• 3 years ago

Here is the original article which started this news cycle. Note that David Grusch hasn't claimed he personally saw any alien vehicles, just that other people told him they exist. His claims are worth investigating but nothing really new.

https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-re...

zugi• 3 years ago

Let's pick one "vouch" at random and look at it:

Sean Allen: https://twitter.com/paulsanderson/status/1666158302483595264... : "I hope David Grusch stays safe."

None of these people are vouching for his story about aliens.

Grusch himself only claims to have heard these stories from others - he hasn't seen anything himself or presented any evidence.

The media loves it though.

Exhaustive list of credible voices vouching for David Grusch and/or Claims

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