Park Hotels Stops Payment on Loans for Two San Francisco Hotels

https://www.pkhotelsandresorts.com/investors/news-and-events/press-releases/2023/06-05-2023-113043391

by boulos • 3 years ago

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JumpinJack_Cash2• 3 years ago

Which is the bank or insurance company on the other side of this transaction?

rahimnathwani2• 3 years ago

CMBS (commercial mortgage-backed securities) are usually structured by banks, but held by:

- Insurance Companies

- Pension Funds

- Mutual Funds

- Hedge Funds

- Real Estate Investment Trusts (REITs)

- Sovereign Wealth Funds

As the servicer, Wells Fargo will be figuring out how to repossess or whatever.

CMBS are usually (always?) non-recourse, i.e. they're secured only on the property. So if the property is worth less than the amount of the loan, the owner is not on the hook for the shortfall.

lotsofpulp• 3 years ago

Pension Funds

This very often ends up being taxpayer funded defined benefit pensions, so at the end of the day, the loss is with future taxpayers.

JumpinJack_Cash2• 3 years ago

The process of packaging the loans together is always the part that I don't understand.

Better yet, I understand why one would do it but the process of how it happens, what are the criterias and finally how would the original underwriter go about selling the now packaged loans is still something I don't understand.

Also what are the data that investors look at when they trade such instruments. For example with stocks one looks at earnings, balance sheets, moats etc. But with MBS what are the parameters? You can only know for sure by exploding the MBS and analyze the underlying loans one by one like that guy did in 2007/2008.

awaythrow483• 3 years ago

I went into a restaurant the other day and it wasn't empty. Absolutely no way SF is having issues.

ryan_lane2• 3 years ago

Whenever I go into SF, the hotels are extremely expensive, and for the most part fully booked. The hotel situation is so dire in SF that AirBnB was launched and extremely successful.

How are these hotels not succeeding?

dasil003• 3 years ago

Do you usually come for major conventions like Dreamforce or WWDC? Rates and occupancy in SF swing pretty wildly.

ryan_lane2• 3 years ago

I avoid conference times (I used to live in SF, so I know the hell of those weeks).

Maybe the rates swing from outrageous to "maybe I'd be willing to pay that", but in comparison to cities like NYC, Tokyo, New Orleans, etc, both the availability and price are completely out of line. Even 2-3 star hotels in SF are expensive and hard to book. Most of them tend to be in the tenderloin as well.

Park Hotels Stops Payment on Loans for Two San Francisco Hotels

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