Poll: Preferred alternate JVM language

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by codemonkeyland • 14 years ago

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thebluesky2• 14 years ago

This could be a rather interesting poll. Might provide some data around the popularity of alternate JVM languages rather speculating.

thebluesky2• 14 years ago

Voting has only just started, but Scala in the lead for now :)

thevegetarian8• 14 years ago

Not so fast... Clojure also getting some votes.

Bobthegoat• 14 years ago

At least the list of languages is looks reasonably exhaustive. No inclusion of Mirah or Nice though.

thevegetarian8• 14 years ago

According to Wikipedia work on Nice slowed around 6 years ago... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_(programming_language)

nefreat• 14 years ago

I think a better way to phrase the poll would be: Which alternative JVM language do you actively use most?

I've met a lot of people who like and use groovy and have it in production but almost nobody who actively uses clojure or scala. Maybe I am biased by my social circle or maybe people are just answering the poll based on what language they think is coolest and not the one they actually use.

pivo• 14 years ago

Depends on what you want to know of course but I'm more interested in what people would prefer to use. I'd imagine that many people are still using Java and I wonder how many would prefer to switch.

For me, I use Scala at work now but I'd prefer to use Clojure. Probably an even better poll would be what do you use and what would you prefer to use.

stewbrew2• 14 years ago

A rather useless question. The word "prefer" is much too vague.

I'd be rather interested in how much experience people actually have with these languages and whether they plan to continue using that language in future projects.

thevegetarian8• 14 years ago

The popularity of a language is important. If developers don't like a language they won't use it. Look at Ruby a few years ago as an example of a popular language which was hardly used which became on of the most widely used scripting languages in modern times.

stewbrew2• 14 years ago

I'm not sure though whether "prefer" (prefer for or as what?) actually measures popularity ... but what kind of popularity anyway? Fanboy-fellowship? People actually using it for work that earns them a living? Hearsay/gossip?

With respect to your ruby example, I have been using ruby for about 10 years but stopped doing so a few years ago. So please excuse me if I fail to see your point. :-)

edanm• 14 years ago

"If developers don't like a language they won't use it."

Do you have any reason to believe that's true?

bwarp3• 14 years ago

I know this is about the alternatives, and I'm probably absolutely mad, but I still prefer Java over all the new alternatives.

It still feels "solid" and dependable and without much fluff.

thevegetarian8• 14 years ago

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2952732/samples-of-scala-...

bwarp3• 14 years ago

I only have one comment to reply to that with:

null, Null, None, Nil

At least I know which null I'm referring to in Java!

pjmlp3• 14 years ago

I did vote on Scala, but actually I would rather that we return to languages that compile direct to native code.

dkersten2• 14 years ago

I agree, I much prefer native compiled languages. I really like clojure and used it for about a year. I stopped because In doing a lot of embedded development so I need to use C and Ive been using C++/qt for desktop gui apps. Since then, though, Ive been kinda put off going back to clojure because its not native compiled even though I like the language itself.

pjmlp3• 14 years ago

There quite a few Lisp environments that compile to native code as well. Have you explored that route?

mark_l_watson• 14 years ago

I didn't like this poll, with only being able to make one choice. Should be a "favorites" poll. I rely pretty heavily on both Clojure and JRuby for my work, and for experimental learning projects. I would have liked to vote for both languages.

Edit: I just took the poll a second time, problem solved :-)

serichsen• 14 years ago

I'd like to see ABCL in that list (a Common Lisp implementation for the JVM).

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