Ukrainians modify civilian drones for military use

https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2023/05/08/how-ukrainians-modify-civilian-drones-for-military-use

by green-eclipse • 3 years ago

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sorokod• 3 years ago

Search for ukraine drone fpv will surface some examples of a particular use case

Teever5• 3 years ago

Things are going to get wild in the US the first time someone uses a drone to take out a corrupt cop who received a paid vacation as punishment for brutalizing an innocent person.

rasz3• 3 years ago

I dont know of any real vigilante examples on Police in US.

Teever5• 3 years ago

That's because it's too hard to get away with it.

Drones will change the balance of power and you'll definitely start to see more of it.

foxyv4• 3 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Dorner_shootings_a...

Christopher Dorner is one example. He was fired for reporting a training officer for police brutality and then decided to start killing police and their families. It was an utter shit show.

At about 5:30 am (PST), at least seven LAPD officers on a protection detail of an unnamed LAPD official's residence in the 19500 block of Redbeam Street in Torrance opened fire on the back of a light blue Toyota Tacoma and shot its two occupants, Emma Hernandez and her daughter, Margie Carranza delivering newspapers for the Los Angeles Times.

LegitShady2• 3 years ago

much more likely to be used by motivated terrorists than vigilantes.

Teever5• 3 years ago

In this scenario, what is the difference?

washadjeffmad• 3 years ago

Are there any rules about drone footage retention? Ie- for review that the combatants weren't surrendering, that prohibited weapons weren't used, etc.

Using makeshift implements in war doesn't exempt them from humanitarian law, and from some of the most popular clips, the attacks seemed to target the sleeping or wounded, and people who are fleeing.

While I'm glad this war isn't being as censored as US military actions, I also haven't had much luck locating informed discussion on topics re: IHL.

foxyv4• 3 years ago

target the sleeping or wounded, and people who are fleeing

None of these are illegal in warfare under any of the various conventions or treaties on rules of war. There are actually, very few illegitimate targets in war such as POWs, humanitarian workers, and surrendering soldiers. In addition there has been extensive evidence of perfidy on the Russian side requiring extreme caution when accepting a surrender.

Killing surrendering soldiers is a gray area depending on the nature of the surrender. Have they dropped their weapons, are their friends still shooting at you, have their officers offered surrender, etc... Since the Russians declared no-quarter in Bakhmut they have forfeited that privilege for the most part. If they had immediately retracted the order and condemned the officers who issued the order then I could see a case being made they should still be offered that privilege. However, they have yet to do so and it is far too late.

https://lieber.westpoint.edu/wagner-groups-no-quarter-order-...

Ukrainians modify civilian drones for military use

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