The Apple Voice

http://zachholman.com/posts/the-apple-voice/

by fbuilesv • 14 years ago

131 29 14 years ago

nirvana• 14 years ago

Interestingly, this post comes at a time when the Apple voice is changing. I think they're taking it to the next level.

This was discussed in the blog of Ken Segall, who previously worked with Apple (and with Jobs) on Apple's copy, including the "Think Different" campaign.

Here's the post: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3548981

Increasingly, Apple is relying solely on imagery. The example billboard has no text on it other than the product name.

Apple is showing, rather than telling, and it is transcendent in its ability to do so-- it has established enough credibility with consumers that "easy to use", is no longer a message it has to communicate.

Further, this also globalizes the brand as images do not have to be translated to the local language, allowing a single voice to be present worldwide.

cube13• 14 years ago

Does this mean that HN posts about Apple should just be a bunch of ASCII images?

redwood• 14 years ago

When a company achieves this level of domination, as shown by how we can speak of it in almost ethereal ways, and as it builds a new mega-building, and as it loses its founder/decider/symbol you've got to think it's approaching its high water mark.

Consider just as skyscrapers correlate with recessions (http://www.businessinsider.com/skyscraper-index-skyscrapers-...), Apple is almost certainly going to begin to unravel.

J3L2404• 14 years ago

Well the people who actually have money in the game disagree. They are very well positioned for future growth. Shorting Apple is suicide.

Drbble• 14 years ago

Every company is almost certainly going to begin to unravel. Business has cycles; success precedes failure. The skyscraper index is laugh.

kenferry• 14 years ago

That may be, but I think you want to think about specifics, not "seems like it's already pretty big!"

Apple had 8.7% of the phone market last quarter. It's as low as that because the majority of phones sold today are not smartphones. Do you think that will remain true for the next 10 years?

andersh• 14 years ago

Apple fans try and write in the Apple Voice. Example: HN comment threads about Apple.

treetrouble• 14 years ago

I would go so far as to say most HN comments mimic that style

sp332• 14 years ago

Check out Apple's identity statement that they put on press releases [edit: this one's at least a year old]:

> Apple designs Macs, the best personal computers in the world, along with OS X, iLife, iWork, and professional software. Apple leads the digital music revolution with its iPods and iTunes online store. Apple is reinventing the mobile phone with its revolutionary iPhone and App Store, and has recently introduced its magical iPad which is defining the future of mobile media and computing devices.

Compared to, say, Microsoft's:

> Founded in 1975, Microsoft (Nasdaq “MSFT”) is the worldwide leader in software, services and solutions that help people and businesses realize their full potential.

jrockway• 14 years ago

Both would benefit from a rather large number of [citation needed] tags, so I'm not sure which is better.

falling• 14 years ago

It's called advertisement.

I'm sure Google wouldn't describe itself as "a good search engine. Most of the time works pretty well, but if you search many common words you'll only find spam".

ugh• 14 years ago

Apple’s is a bit long and overly specific (Seriously, iWork? The software you last gave a serious update more than three years ago?) but that’s more a sign of an identity statement that has grown organically over the years instead of being rewritten from scratch from time to time.

The general idea is good but I would simplify it quite a bit.

tesseract• 14 years ago

I hadn't noticed, until sp332 pointed it out, that they were no longer leading with "Apple ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s..."

lecha• 14 years ago

Voice matters and it hard to build, especially for engineers. http://voiceandtone.com/ from MailChilp offers a good framework of designing a voice by cataloguing touch-points between the software and the user. You may or may not find MailChimp's voice fitting, but the framework itself is quite useful.

joblessjunkie• 14 years ago

I like Apple products _in spite of_ that smug voice, not because of it.

Yes, the voice is clear and simple -- just like the products -- but I curdle when I read Apple's copy, and have empathy for the brand haters.

tdoggette2• 14 years ago

"If you don't have an iPhone, well: you don't have an iPhone.*

I found those ads particularly offensive.

greyish_water• 14 years ago

Why?

_frog• 14 years ago

Smug and self congratulatory perhaps, but offensive? I don't think that's an accurate description.

LearnYouALisp• 14 years ago

Heh, reminds me of this comment:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3420672

mrich• 14 years ago

For me it is one of the reasons why I avoid Apple products.

pkamb• 14 years ago

"Here's everything we offer, soup to nuts." isn't really The Apple Voice. That's more the "overly informal and conversational" voice you see so often these days.

georgieporgie• 14 years ago

I'll take informal and conversational, as long as it's also direct and informative. The worst possible output is marketing-doublespeak or the meaningless-checkbox-comparison page.

latchkey• 14 years ago

I'm just wondering what Github's voice is towards Githire?

shapeshed• 14 years ago

This is a Github internal memo doubling up as marketing. Smart.

Flam• 14 years ago

It's called tone.

The Apple Voice

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