Yammer moving away from Scala

https://gist.github.com/7565976a89d5da1511ce

by latchkey • 15 years ago

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jameskilton• 15 years ago

Gist has been deleted, did the OP happen to grab the text?

jbrkr• 15 years ago

Also available here: https://gist.github.com/1406238

alexobjelean• 15 years ago

Would love to hear more feedback regarding usage of scala in big companies with large code-base.

latchkey• 15 years ago

Interesting that it has gone away now. @jbrkr, thanks for finding a new link.

codahale• 15 years ago

I'm curious as to where you got that link, considering that I didn't share my personal correspondance with Typesafe with you.

michaelcampbell3• 15 years ago

Fascinating writeup, honestly. I've only dabbled with Scala around the edges and have been focusing on Clojure recently, so I don't have enough experience to agree or disagree with that, but Scala always felt too ... something, for me. I'm having fun with Clojure, and the community is wonderful. For quicky java-esque one-offs, Groovy is suiting me.

But to each their own.

lucian19003• 15 years ago

I've been looking for alternatives to Java for Android development. Since Python and Clojure aren't options (right now anyway), I looked at Scala among others.

I found the syntax pretty terrible, worse than Java in several ways. In particular, too complex. I also found the object system overly complicated (and I find Haskell's ok).

michaelcampbell3• 15 years ago

It's early days yet, but you /can/ do Clojure on android. Check out https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sattvik.clojure_re..., and google Daniel Solano Gomez; the guy behind the vast majority of that effort.

lucian19003• 15 years ago

I know, and it's an awesome effort. But it's still not practical (yet).

rckenned• 15 years ago

The Bump guys did a "Scala on Android" talk at the last Scala Days. They didn't explicitly say it, but reading between the lines it sounded like, "Scala on Android…don't".

http://www.slideshare.net/michael.galpin/scala-on-android-ex...

foobarbazetc• 15 years ago

This would be obvious to anyone who's ever had to program Java for Android.

It's slow enough -- why would you want to make it even slower?

svenefftinge2• 15 years ago

Have a look at Xtend (http://xtend-lang.org). It's exactly what the yammer guy is looking for: convenience of Scala (closures, type inference, and more) without the complexity.

And it compiles to Java source code, which makes it an ideal language for Android development.

discreteevent• 15 years ago

If you are the real Sven then kudos for signing your name to this comment but I think it looks a bit opportunistic of you to pile on in this context with a recommendation for your language. No language is perfect and xtend itself hasn't even been used in anger yet.

soc88• 15 years ago

Yet another language obsolete after Java 8. That's exactly what people need.

lucian19003• 15 years ago

It looks interesting, actually. I may give it a try, along with haXe's Java backend (if/when it gets released).

jodastephen• 15 years ago

I've also copied it to my blog, in case the new gist disappears: http://blog.joda.org/2011/11/real-life-scala-feedback-from-y...

eneveu• 15 years ago

Note that InfoQ covered the whole story (which is how I found out about this HN discussion): http://www.infoq.com/news/2011/11/yammer-scala

Yammer moving away from Scala

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