Redbean web server debugging with ZeroBrane Studio

https://notebook.kulchenko.com/redbean/redbean-debugging-with-zerobrane-studio

by paulclinger • 4 years ago

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grimgrin2• 4 years ago

A nice way to debug is just what we needed.

Paul has been very foundational to a positive spirit in the cosmo/redbean community. Besides this cool work, they're also the author of fullmoon, a web framework for redbean

https://github.com/pkulchenko/fullmoon

paulclinger4• 4 years ago

Thanks @grimgrin! BTW, Fullmoon scripts can be debugged too.

grimgrin2• 4 years ago

And I'll reply here to say that though the article mentions "should work on Linux", I have tested and it _does work on linux_.

jart5• 4 years ago

Paul's the top contributor to Redbean. He's always believed in and supported the project, even while I was on my SectorLISP hiatus. He's an artist with APIs and I couldn't have designed the Redbean UNIX module as well as I did without his help. It's very welcome to see his ZeroBrane IDE being used to debug Redbean. It's a multiplatform IDE but if you run it on Windows, I like how it has the classic vibe of legendary tools like Borland Delphi or Visual Basic 6. It fills a similar niche as SerenityOS in that sense.

paulclinger4• 4 years ago

Thank you, Justine, for your kind words and all the work you put into Redbean and Cosmopolitan!

AMICABoard• 4 years ago

Redbean and Cosmopolitan is like magical alien technology that unites all computing on earth! Now we have a visual debugging method, good work kind ladies & gentleman!

The team is like nuts aliens and I admire their brains.

giraffe_lady3• 4 years ago

I love redbean and am actively using it on a project, completely in awe. BUT I'm a little put off by the claims that it is so universal when it doesn't support arm.

This would have been a reasonable claim even a few years ago but specifically because of m1 macs arm is becoming much more common. It also prevents it from being used in one of the situations where you would most want a high performance standalone binary server & environment: raspberry pi.

There are technical solutions to this limitation and they are fine. But they significantly break the universality illusion and benefits.

jart5• 4 years ago

Redbean runs on M1 Macs with ARM. Daniil Kulchenko pulled off an impressive hack to make that possible. https://github.com/jart/cosmopolitan/issues/429 Redbean also works great on Windows ARM https://youtu.be/CQ7Npip88Yw As for Linux ARM, we're working on it.

If you can point me to any place where we've claimed it's "universal" rather than "runs on nearly all PCs and servers" then let me know and I'll correct the language. It wasn't my intent to put Redbean on the same level as Turing's universal machine. Systems engineering isn't the same thing as computer science, but I think Redbean will help elevate it as a field.

tepitoperrito2• 4 years ago

My question is, how portable is the lua code written for redbean to a GNU/Systemd environment running something like LuaJIT or whichever interpreter would be more compatible. Forgive my lack of knowledge of the lua ecosystem, and not checking out more of the redbean docs.

riidom• 4 years ago

Nice to see Zerobrane is still around. I moved a bit away (for now) from the Lua world, but working with Zerobrane was a blast at that time.

paulclinger4• 4 years ago

Thanks @riidom! Good times. Hope you'll come back to the Lua world ;).

elitepleb• 4 years ago

absolutely loving your work on https://github.com/pkulchenko/fullmoon and redbean, keep it up!

soupbowl• 4 years ago

The Cosmopolitan ecosystem is really cool, I love seeing updates and improvements. I have not jumped into using redbean yet but I plan too soon. Good work everyone involved!

Redbean web server debugging with ZeroBrane Studio

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