Are stock options a sham?

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by jwhelan • 15 years ago

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geophile• 15 years ago

Negotiating at the endgame is way, way too late. You need to negotiate this at the beginning. Specifically, make sure there are no liquidation preferences. Those preferences might say that, if the company is sold for less than $X, the investors get their investment out in whole, and then whatever is left is split proportionally among the holders of vested options.

I was screwed by this once, and have since pressed to have liquidation preferences removed. Once was in a B round, and the VCs dropped them completely. Another time I was part of the founding team and successfully insisted they be removed in the A round.

I've seen VCs argue in favor of liquidation preferences (there was an HN discussion pointing to a discussion on avc.com). Understandable from their point of view. You can fight back, but if the investors won't give up on them, you obviously have a hard choice.

MichaelGagnon• 15 years ago

Agreed. Employers compensate you based on their estimate of your __future__ contributions to profit. Asking for compensation during a fire sale is not negotiating; it is begging.

tomcreighton• 15 years ago

Most job/hiring advice and anecdotes on HN seem to be very adversarial. Obviously this makes for a better story, but why aren't we seeing more posts about preventing this sort of employee-employer breakdown - i.e. "Don't Work for Assholes".

Secondly, I'd be happy if my stock options amounted to more than the cost of a couple rounds of drinks. Expecting to receive high value from something so nebulous seems presumptuous.

Are stock options a sham?

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