British Army Chief warns UK and allies facing '1937 moment'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99iFAW9fvh8

by journey_16162 • 4 years ago

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pomdapi• 4 years ago

Does he mean the one when Chamberlain convinced Czech Republic to give its larger army to Germany, it's superior tank factories, concede territory to both Germany and Poland, to rescind the security guarantees the SSSR gave to Czechia ?

And then "pikachu" face when Hitler proceeded to invade Czechia with the same tanks they were given 2 years earlier, as did Poland, then second "pikachu face" when the Reich and SSSR did the same to Poland a minute later ?

That 1937 moment of titanic hypocritical behaviour ?

Englishmen really always love to play the Great Game, no matter the century...

goatsneez4• 4 years ago

This is nothing new in terms of rhetorics from the UK-US axis of self-righteous world-view and sub-section of history they like to quote. Now that they induced the conflict and were able to dominate the information space (as they prepared for it for long two decades) they want to capitalize. One thing that everyone seems to agree is that this is not about UA or RU anymore, this is war between ideologies (East/West - whatever the elites understand by this and plan to impose and enforce over docile populace).

Both ideologies are as of now just different sides of the same coin. Both, east or west vision of the future are utterly authoritarian, full-spectrum control over population (through digital fin-tech), and dominance in economic-military matters over neighbors. Cooperation will be fragile and shallow. The rhetoric is on both side in absolutes, with no recognition of their own actions playing any role in other's reactions. It appears the western elites especially are in the mode of perpetual escalation, finding anything to use as a vector of provocation or humiliation.

As long as there is no peace talks, no speeches for peace, self-restraint and reason, I see no hope. I know of no elite, no politicians or a political party in EU or US that wants peace. NB! Of cause practical state and economic matters have to be solved through appropriate diplomatic channels, Im not advocating infant's view of peace here, but the practical one. One, that takes years to establish even when peace speeches are delivered daily. Instead, we are pumped for war, more encompassing war, more of a total war. A kind of war that nobody (civilians) want on either side of the proverbial barricade.

trasz4• 4 years ago

Russia induced the conflict by invading Ukraine. There is no “self-righteousness” here; this conflict is unusually simple: there is an invading side, trying to destroy a nation, and there is a defending side.

And just like before 1939, trying to negotiate at this point would be a mistake. Letting Russia survive 1990 in its current shape was already a mistake.

goatsneez4• 4 years ago

It is not serving any purpose to demonstrate that your one-liner summary is not corresponding to the reality of the long history of US-RU posturing that resulted into the situation today. There is only one factual truth in that line, which does not unpack into your second and third conclusions.

What I do want to react to is you last sentence to point out that this is exactly the "self-righteousness" I point out in the narrative which that posted video repeats (it is an old one). It is your god given right to hold that view irrespective of anything, Im just pointing out when talking about state-state interaction such attitude leads only to one outcome, total war. And this is exactly where we are headed...

British Army Chief warns UK and allies facing '1937 moment'

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