Companies Who Make Money: Datapresser

http://thenextweb.org/2008/09/27/ep4-companies-who-make-money-datapresser/

by agentbleu • 18 years ago

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eru• 18 years ago

Sounds bogus.

jonursenbach• 18 years ago

Well isn't that something.

mhartl• 18 years ago

I kept looking at the date to make sure it wasn't April 1st, but this appears to be real.

ojbyrne• 18 years ago

If its true, and the datapresser site seems legit (http://datapresser.com/generate_unique_content), it would explain so much.

andyking2• 18 years ago

I've read quite a number of blog posts recently that have been written in English that's seemed strangely clunky and unnatural, in a style very similar to the intro text on the Datapresser home page.

I initially put it down to posts being authored by people for whom English is a second language, but they're US-based blogs. This initially dodgy-sounding idea starts to seem plausible.

mattmaroon• 18 years ago

I haven't read that blog before, but now scrolling down through some recent entries, it's all very clunky English. On the other hand, the person writing it is named Ernst-Jan Pfauth.

olefoo• 18 years ago

So the game of the week must be 'Which mainstream bloggers are using content generation tools?'

And the next big thing in startups is going to be filtering out algorithmically generated content.

Thus leading to a coevolutionary arms race where generators and filters are getting better and better until mere humans are outclassed. Automated comment bots and semantic maps of key demographic groups become dominant, generations of marketing lore gets coded into verbiage generators leading to an end state where the entire universe of online discourse is generated by Robert Scoble pushing a button, repeatedly.

wallflower• 18 years ago

The personal subscription $25CDN is "limited" to 500 posts/day. Even TC doesn't post that much.

I think the real discussion is moving to Twitter-like mediums (short and quick - who has time for blogging). Looking at Techmeme, it looks like a lot of the discussion isn't really - just rehashing (no time for analysis)

qhoxie• 18 years ago

Their volume of articles really does not seem implausible given their number of writers and the abundace of information. Sure, they put out quite a few articles a day, but if that is their mission, it is not surprising. What they do is far from inhuman.

That said, this product seems like it could be of use for them.

sgrove• 18 years ago

Actually, datapresser sounds like a very interesting side-project to work on, involving natural language processing and machine learning. I'm pretty impressed, sounds like it could have been a side project turned into a viable startup business.

Hexstream• 18 years ago

I'm not sure whether or not it's a joke

I'm not sure whether or not I hope it's a joke.

oldgregg• 18 years ago

Sounds like fun little subversive marketing campaign from datapresser.

gojomo• 18 years ago

-1 shallow TC bashing

-1 feeds unhealthy TC obsession

-1 weak attempt at humor

-1 single joke stretched out too long

-1 ungrammatical headline

-1 awkward writing in article

In the News.YC of my dreams, everyone who upvoted this article would be disenfranchised.

agentbleu2• 18 years ago

You get -100 "awkward writing in article" was because the machine wrote it. Did you not read the post?

paulgb• 18 years ago

I'm calling BS on that claim. If the software could do anything more advanced than replacing random words from a thesaurus, there would be a lot of applications for it more lucrative than populating spamblogs.

rantfoil• 18 years ago

This is really really awful for the future of the Internet. Generating random content is specifically the kind of garbage that we don't want on the web. It's the definition of 'free-ridership' -- lets create a bunch of valueless nonsense programmatically, and massively destroy true value (real useful information) and then PROFIT.

Weak.

blogimus• 18 years ago

As general content degrades, all the more that eventually we're going to see some form of information and content delivery certification emerge, not unlike what Underwriters Laboratories do for for product and material goods safety and quality, or what the USDA and FDA try to do for food and drug quality. Perhaps something akin to the movie and game content ratings, but adding fact checking.

A voluntary certification system could help people trust content. Search engines could apply web content providers' quality group affiliation (or lack thereof) to search heuristics.

Maybe it will be NGO based, maybe government run, depending on where you are in the world. I'd opt for the NGO approach myself, with a healthy number of competing organizations, especially considering China's effective use of content control as an extreme case.

A danger here, though, is if we move to "seals of approval" web content and the majority of individuals and groups avoid content that does not have a "seal of approval" then there are going to be barriers to entry, such as the various costs that members of associations pay for services.

trevelyan• 18 years ago

There's a Philip K. Dick story that involves a machine like this that is used to generate political speeches. Can't quite remember the title. Anyone know?

agentbleu2• 18 years ago

In his prescient 1972 speech "The Android and the Human"

andyking2• 18 years ago

Anyway, this pales in comparison to the awesome power of the Twat-O-Tron, an automatic comment generator for the BBC's news website: http://ifyoulikeitsomuchwhydontyougolivethere.com/the-twat-o...

Also works on YouTube.

cvg• 18 years ago

This reminds me of SCIgen: http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/ These guys entered their auto-generated research paper to a conference and actually got invited to present it at a seminar.

Jimega36• 18 years ago

Using such a tool sounds like a vast lie from the companies benefiting from it. Isn't impersonation a crime? It would be fun to sue for massive amounts one of the fake users and then the company that generated would be liable:))) If ever proven so through.

Eliezer• 18 years ago

No.

ryuio• 18 years ago

It might sound surprising but CNet also uses similar techniques to generate huge parts of their product reviews.

The technique is the biggest threat to the current crop of 'content' driven search engines (read Google and everyone else) and has the potential to wreak havoc with current ranking systems. Given the lucrative nature of the automatic content generation business, this is also inevitable.

Companies Who Make Money: Datapresser

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