WebOS 3.0.4 released

http://jaaksi.blogspot.com/2011/10/no-strings-attached-enjoy.html

by j_col • 15 years ago

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bergie• 15 years ago

made connectivity with non-HP phones possible

I wonder what that means. Synchronization? Tethering? Notifications about calls and SMS on the device?

unwiredben2• 15 years ago

The TouchPad can now work as a Bluetooth speakerphone for non-webOS phones that support the right profiles. It can also do SMS access on phones that expose that database.

suivix• 15 years ago

For some reason this reminds me of the guy who recently ported Prince of Persia from the Apple 2 to the Commodore 64.

deyan• 15 years ago

Thanks for the link! Does anyone know if this breaks the 3.0.2 recommended patches (e.g. muffling logging, etc.)

yoshamano• 15 years ago

Word 'round the Precentral forums is that it breaks most patches. Like with all updates, you'll lose custom kernels until the kernel source is released. So I made a list of all the patched I use then removed them along with UberKernel.

warthogkernel• 15 years ago

muffle is broken until I have time to make a new patch. Probably not till this weekend.

j_col2• 15 years ago

Love one of the anonymous comments on there:

"From one HP employee to another: THANK YOU for this awesome OS and OTA. The Touchpad, the Pre 3 ... such awesome products. I truly hope our new leadership will do the right thing and bring the platforms back."

pconf• 15 years ago

It is an awesome OS except for one significant drawback: javascript. If not for the dependency on js these phones and tablets wouldn't lock-up hard so often or hang for several seconds after touching the screen more often than not. I know js fans will object but their single-threaded, interpreted language is the #2 source of Palm/HP's troubles.

The #1 Palm issue, however, is the hardware manufacturer/s. If Palm had been able to use the same CN fabs as Apple the Pre would be _big_. But they weren't and as a result the Pre/Pixi/Touchpad are larger than they could have been and, more significantly, the (Pre/Pixi) keyboards are the worst on any smartphone.

taylorbuley• 15 years ago

I am lucky enough to own a tablet of each breed, and my TouchPad is by far my favorite. Sure there are less apps by an order of magnitude, but HP nailed most of the core services. For example, mark all as read -- I've yet to find this basic feature on my Honeycomb tab or iPad.

coob• 15 years ago

You can now mark multiple emails as read in iOS5.

maaku• 15 years ago

mark multiple emails = O(n), mark all = O(1)

brackin• 15 years ago

Yet did HP not announce there would be no more Web OS devices, HP needs to open source this. The more choice the better! I can see Samsung or HTC producing some slick devices running Web OS. Hardware was always a key issue for me, the Pre was slow and boring.

Tloewald• 15 years ago

I forget, didn't people demo Android running much quicker on touchpad hardware? If so, it's the decision to depend too much on the JavaScript stack and not the hardware that's the ultimate problem.

davux• 15 years ago

Android really doesn't run quicker than WebOS yet. There isn't any 2D hardware acceleration (last I knew, a few days ago). This means that sometimes Android is really fluid, but then it starts studdering and kind of ruins the experience.

I also had a ton of Force-Close's on the browser. I'm back to WebOS until the Android CM7 builds get past Alpha. It looks like it'll be usable, but not really yet.

vondur• 15 years ago

You are correct, Android does run fast on the Touchpad.

csomar• 15 years ago

Hi. I don't understand anymore. Didn't HP kill the tablet and WebOS?

What does this mean? Will there new tablets? If not, why WebOS is being updated?

RexRollman• 15 years ago

HP probably wants to keep it updated in case they can sell the WebOS unit.

camiller• 15 years ago

They killed the hardware. They have the #2 tablet by user base (admittedly due to selling many tablets at a loss during the fire sale) and do need to support them for a reasonable period of time, bug fixes and such, which is what this release is. They always said they wanted to keep the software alive.

zwieback• 15 years ago

Great for the many HP employees like myself who got a TouchPad in the employee fire sale, supposedly there will be a lot of TouchPads going out as Christmas presents. If nothing else, the current TouchPad population is one giant, if expensive, beta program for WebOS - let's hope someone does something awesome with it.

jarek• 15 years ago

You have to kinda feel for Ari Jaaksi: jumped ship from Nokia when Maemo/Meego was going down, only to find himself at Palm/HP...

thinkcomp2• 15 years ago

This is still my #1 problem with the TouchPad:

http://forums.hpwebos.com/t5/HP-TouchPad-Software-Hardware/A...

Otherwise it's great.

morrow• 15 years ago

I didn't realize that it converted all ampersands in the URL -- what a ridiculous oversight. What bugs me is that the browser doesn't support @font-face fonts. I don't understand the design process that led to implementing node.js as a service on a mobile device before adding in fundamental CSS support...

unwiredben2• 15 years ago

Can you provide more detail? Is this when entering URLs directly? Have you tried going through j.mp or bitly.com and shortening the URL, then bookmarking that version?

thinkcomp2• 15 years ago

It's when entering them directly, clicking on links, or using bookmarks. The & gets passed through to the server--it's not just an issue with the UI. Annoying as hell.

Pent• 15 years ago

I own a touchpad and without a developed app base it feels so rigid to me. I don't want to share links by email I want to share them through my various online accounts. I don't want to multitask by navigating to cards I want to have in-app multitasking through swipes. Even reading a PDF on it is painful because the font rendering is so poor. I don't think HP really "got it". It was barely worth the 99 I paid for it. I installed the new update today. And while this update increased the responsiveness it didn't address the fundamental workflow problems... But since they are abandoning it anyway I probably shouldn't expect anything anyway.

j_col2• 15 years ago

Sounds like you should sell it on eBay to someone who loves webOS, and make yourself a tidy profit in the process. The workflow issues you describe are basically how webOS fundamentally works, so it sounds like it is a design decision that you will never be comfortable with.

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