Exclusive-Facebook to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-meta-platforms-idUSL3N2VD40U

by desertjedi • 4 years ago

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9748279382• 4 years ago

It should be clarified that it dosen't apply to civilians[0].

In any case, I wish they would make a universally applicable policy that produce a reasonable result in all situations, rather than make arbitrary case-by-case exceptions. For instance, why not make a rule saying you are allowed to call for violence against individuals presently committing acts of violence? It should not matter if that violence is committed on behalf of the Russian or US government or someone else.

[0] https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/exclusive-facebook-inst...

desertjedi• 4 years ago

How will the rule allowing calls for violence - even if "only" against perpetrators of violence aid the people of Ukraine, or any other country? European countries, the USA and NATO can put an immediate stop to ongoing war in Ukraine, but commiting against a NATO membership of Ukraine. Is Ukraine's NATO membership for worth the loss of no matter how many lifes?

9748279382• 4 years ago

I don't think committing against a NATO membership of Ukraine would affect the current conflict. Ukraine was not close to joining NATO before Russia attacked, and NATO was already clear that it cannot join as long as Crimea is disputed. I think if Ukraine can survive this war, it needs to join NATO as soon as possible afterwards, even if that means surrendering Crimea, Donbas, and whatever else Russia may claim.

Russia is the best recruiter NATO could wish for. NATO want Finland and Sweden to join and public opinion was strongly against until the war. I'm a Swedish citizen myself and have gone from "absolutely not" to "it sucks but maybe we have to" on the question of NATO membership. It's the lesser of three evils. The two more evil options being becoming Russian territory (or at least a vassal), and making our own nuclear weapons. Maybe in the future, the EU may be an alternative to NATO, or Russia may become a better neighbor. But today, in 2022, I don't see any better alternative. That said, NATO's war crimes should also be condemned and Sweden should definitely not participate in any military interventions outside of what Article 5 requires.

jwilk• 4 years ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30632695 (297 comments)

Exclusive-Facebook to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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