Moscow launches full-scale invasion of Ukraine

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/23/ukraine-declares-state-of-emergency-amid-fears-of-invasion-liveblog

by Godel_unicode • 4 years ago

22 10 4 years ago

ajuc4• 4 years ago

If there was no Nord Stream Putin wouldn't be able to invade without Baltic States, Poland and Ukraine shutting down the gas trade with western Europe. Which is a big part of Russian budget.

Germany knew about this from the start, heads of these states warned about exactly this scenario since 90s, yet Germany pursued cost-cutting over stabilisation of the region. And called these states "russophobic".

Even after 2008 invasion of Georgria. And after 2014 annexation of Crimea from Ukraine.

German chancellor Schroeder was then found out to be corrupted by Russian gas company Gasprom, and later moved on to work in board of Gasprom.

Germans still pursued Nord Stream 2 and almost finished it recently.

Obviously the one at fault is Putin and Russia, but Germany was instrumental in making it possible. It must be taken into account if EU has any chances of working. You cannot be this egoistic and/or naive for decades without consequences.

Is there any way for EU members to demand one member to explain itself and correct their behavior?

rasz• 4 years ago

If there was no Nord Stream Putin wouldn't be able to invade without Baltic States, Poland and Ukraine shutting down the gas trade with western Europe. Which is a big part of Russian budget.

This is an easily testable theory. It would take 2-3 small boats and some explosives, <$100K budget, to cripple Nord Stream 1.

aritmo2• 4 years ago

Just another Cuba in the making.

Cuba decided in the 60s to accept Soviet nuclear missiles. The US found out and threatened a WW3. There was a failed attempt to invade Cuba. Still the US keeps Guantanamo by force.

Sixty years on and Cuba is under total economic sanctions by the US.

ajuc4• 4 years ago

Yeah because Ukraine voting to join EU (a trade agreement) and being INVADED is the same as Cuba accepting nuclear missiles.

In fact Ukraine gave up theirs nuclear missiles in 90s in exchange for security and territorial integrity guarantees from UK, USA and Russia. Now you can see how well that worked out for them :/

aritmo2• 4 years ago

Shortly after, the nuclear missiles left Cuba. Sixty years later, Cuba is still under full sanctions, Guantanamo is still occupied.

Cuba was set up by the Soviets. The Ukraine has been set up as a way to marginalize and weaken Russia.

Moscow launches full-scale invasion of Ukraine

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