Ask HN: Anybody else exhausted by code discussion?

I don't mean discussing the logic of algos or the business logic, but the code cleanliness, the tech debt, the endless refactorings, etc is really getting to me.

I'm fast approaching a place where I'm going to implode if I have another argument around whether service A talks to service B and it should instead be talking to service C because of magical boundaries that we've setup. I'm so tired of dependency arguments and what should be exposed and what shouldn't. Even more tiring: arguments about process and story points/estimation and what should be the ideal workflow and people whose entire jobs it is to facilitate these arguments further.

I just want to build cool stuff.

Every company is the same, with the same problems and the same arguments made by the same personalities. You'd think all of the accumulated human hours we've spent arguing about the perfection of code over the decades of computing we'd have arrived at something decent by now, but spaghetti is spaghetti and it's everywhere. Is there a world where we just embrace it all and save our breaths? Can we build something new that will ultimately remove these discussions? I want to go to a place where people are passionately arguing about the direction of the product and what to build next, not mindless code structure arguments that will happen all over again in a month when someone leaves and someone new joins and shoves a new dependency into the mix.

Before everyone starts furiously typing that thinking about clean code for the future is critical for a good engineer, I'm well aware. I'm just so exhausted by it all. I don't know how to phrase it properly about the dichotomy of "I understand, but...ffs" that I'm feeling