Dataset and Model for “I built a system to take photos of planes over my house”

https://universe.roboflow.com/skybot-cam/overhead-plane-detector

by yeldarb • 4 years ago

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uomo• 4 years ago

Earlier discussion regarding "I built a system that takes pictures of all the airplanes that fly over my house": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30039597

anonymousiam• 4 years ago

Project Not Found

Sorry, the overhead-plane-detector dataset does not exist, has been deleted, or is not shared with you.

yeldarb3• 4 years ago

Uh oh! Is this when trying to get the project info via our REST API (or pip package) for custom training?

I’m working on getting that working with Universe shared projects ASAP but the Jupyter notebook link should work with our training notebooks in the meantime.

Edit: I should mention that inference against the trained api on this project also should work A-Ok already.

robertlagrant2• 4 years ago

It's on Azure, so maybe it uses the same permissions nightmare as Teams.

yeldarb3• 4 years ago

Nah this is my my bad.

Revamping the API Key permission logic to be aware that the person who created the project might not be the same person accessing it via API now that we have public sharing was a known “todo” that I deprioritized until users started running into it!

Prioritizing now that there’s actually some traffic discovering it.

ryanmarsh• 4 years ago

What’s with all the “Bank of <bank name> Trustee” jets?

citizenpaul3• 4 years ago

Ultra rich people that hide their identities through anonymous bank entities. They are totally not the people that really rule the world rather than the politicians that most people think are in charge.

Its also one of the reasons that despite private planes being one of the biggest contributors to climate change nothing will ever be done about it. Those rich people love their freedom to hop around anywhere in the world at a moments notice.

Super cool project. I was thinking about doing something similar at one time but I was too lazy.

bjterry• 4 years ago

I don't think that's right for all of them. I suspect it's the company that owns the lease or loan on a plane that's being financed. For example, the current first listing is an A319-112 with the number A997E5. According to PlaneFinder that's operated by American Airlines[0]. A lot of them are very large planes, which wouldn't really make sense for a private jet. Some are smaller, though, and are probably being financed by the ultra-wealthy.

0: https://planefinder.net/data/aircraft/N717UW

dortlechortle• 4 years ago

No, ultra rich people hide their identities through a corporation, not a trust. When you purchase large capital items with a bank’s help, the ownership usually looks like that. If you finance the aircraft as an ultra rich person, the ownership will probably also look like that. It’s completely normal and is a large proportion of aircraft ownership structures. A double-digit percentage of pretty much all major carriers’ fleets are titled in this way. Just like your payoff quote with your bank, when an airline finishes paying, the title is transferred. This arrangement will explain all but one or two of the trustees that will appear on this camera for the entire time it exists.

So if your car is titled to a bank because you have a loan on it, would you say you’re ultra rich and hiding your identity? I’m with you on the rah-rah eat the rich vibe but at least make sure you’re shooting downrange.

iso12102• 4 years ago

Its also one of the reasons that despite private planes being one of the biggest contributors to climate change nothing will ever be done about it.

Aviation as a whole is responsible for 3.5% of climate change [0]

So while the impact on a per-person is very high, it's a tiny amount compared to the mass impact of international shipping, heating, and even commercial planes.

[0] https://research.noaa.gov/article/ArtMID/587/ArticleID/2667/...

_djo_• 4 years ago

The US has a relatively weird structure where trusts are one of the best ways to meet the FAA's requirements for ownership while also hiding certain ownership details: https://www.hef.ru.nl/~pfk/aircraftGalleries/organisation-Ai...

Most of the time you see it used is when a lessor has taken an aircraft back from an airline after the lease has ended for some reason, and it becomes a holding structure until the aircraft is leased again to another operator. The financials of airliner operation make it feasible for most airlines to have a mixed fleet of owned and leased aircraft.

But in this case Wilmington Trust is a fairly large aircraft lessor in its own right: https://library.wilmingtontrust.com/corporate-institutional/... and https://centreforaviation.com/data/profiles/lessors/wilmingt...

For instance here's an Airbus A350 that was used by LATAM, then returned to Wilmington during the COVID-19 drawdown of flying, and is being taken into service by Delta: https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/airbus-a350-900-n982d...

This is actually a flaw in the tracker's logic though, in that it's probably using an outdated data source that's still showing that intermediary registration holder rather than the current operator.

brianzelip2• 4 years ago

Would love to tweak something like this to detect parcel delivery vehicles in our neighborhood. Anyone know of such a project they can link to?

yeldarb3• 4 years ago

I haven’t seen one specifically for parcel delivery vehicles yet. Users have shared package[1] and vehicle[2] projects on Universe.

You could likely use the car detection model as a base to collect photos and bootstrap a collection of delivery truck images. We’re working on enabling users to contribute additional images to these datasets as well.

Creating these custom detectors is what Roboflow is built for (and it’s free if you open source the dataset you create for others to build off of).

[1] https://universe.roboflow.com/joseph-nelson/packages-g0ton [2] https://universe.roboflow.com/roboflow-gw7yv/vehicles-openim...

annoyingnoob• 4 years ago

Not sure about the detection part.. I setup a raspberry pi w/camera behind the peephole in my front door. I use the motion project[0] to do motion detection and recording of activity on my porch - the stream or photos from motion could be sent to some kind of detection (where presumably you'd train your own model from your own source photos of trucks or packages).

[0] https://motion-project.github.io

brianzelip2• 4 years ago

Thanks for the tip!

leipert• 4 years ago

I assume that one can triangulate the exact position of the house of the author from the pictures.

______• 4 years ago

First time I've seen a .cam TLD, makes me think that they might be used a lot for phishing - without thinking I typed in skybot.com instead of "cam"

z3c0• 4 years ago

Feels like I'm saying the domain in a Cartman-esque accent.

choward• 4 years ago

And if you choose something that ends with an "s" your domain ends with "s.cam".

ballenf• 4 years ago

Could you listen the audio to detect the cargo load? At least within categories (light/middle/heavy)?

Dataset and Model for “I built a system to take photos of planes over my house”

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