Finnish diplomats have been targets of cyber espionage by Pegasus spyware

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by caaqil • 4 years ago

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Torifyme12• 4 years ago

NSO is really working to make sure they have no advocates left aren't they.

jdkjs• 4 years ago

What do they need advocates for? All they need is clients.

rich_sasha• 4 years ago

It’s interesting. Who did this?

Was it the Fins themselves, keeping tabs on their diplomats? Hard to believe.

Was it their belligerent neighbour Russia, who were not supposed to have access to Pegasus? Hmm

Who else? Swedes stealing sauna secrets?

timonoko• 4 years ago

Estonians. There are lots of former communists in Finnish civil service. Many of whom were openly opposing Estonian independence.

Unlike other east European countries Finland did nothing to clean the administration.

They just selected new Minister of Social Services, who was most vile pro-soviet communist in the 1970s.

What is worse, the constitution of Finland is currently interpreted by a former board member of Finnish Communist party, one Dr. Martin Scheisse. So everything goes, Soviet-Style mock lawsuits of MPs and China-Style vaccination passports.

terom2• 4 years ago

What is worse, the constitution of Finland is currently interpreted by a former board member of Finnish Communist party, one Dr. Martin Scheisse. So everything goes, Soviet-Style mock lawsuits of MPs and China-Style vaccination passports.

Wow, this is the first time I've ever run into this level of perversion of the truth about Finnish politics anywhere (outside of Twitter).

I assume that by the degrading "Dr. Martin Scheisse" you are referring to Martin Scheinin[1], a professor on international law. While it seems like he does publish some opinions about constitutional law [2] and topics including COVID-19 [3] with a pro-lockdown stance, I don't think he has anything to do with the actual political body responsible for interpretating the Finnish constitution [4] - he's certainly not listed as a member.

The Perustuslakivaliokunta has actually taken quite a limited stance on COVID-19 things, e.g. blocking the proposed curfew measures in spring 2021, and the (currently on hold, presumably to be entirely scrapped or become optional) Finnish COVID-19 passport scheme is not on the strictest side of even EU standards (e.g. artists and staff working at the venues are excluded).

Not sure what exactly you're referring to with the soviet-style mock lawsuits, there have been many politically relevant lawsuits going on recently. But it does seem like you've picked up some delusions somewhere, and may want to refrain from spreading such false truths.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Scheinin

[2] https://perustuslakiblogi.wordpress.com/category/kirjoittaja...

[3] https://www.iltalehti.fi/koronavirus/a/6a55281c-4f12-46d6-be...

[4] https://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/valiokunnat/perustuslakivaliokun...

estaseuropano• 4 years ago

Estonians are one of Finland's closest allies, they have no reason to spy on Finland. What competing interests would they be spying for? What use would they make of such information? And why would they spy on diplomats when their foreign policy is 99% aligned and within the EU framework they basically agree a common policy and rarely vote differently? If anything i could imagine them spying on admin/politicians, but there's no gain for EE tool spy on FI diplomats. But even that makes no sense.

Why spread such nonsense?

jacquesm• 4 years ago

I think you win the 'jump to conclusions' award for the week. An evidence free accusation based on nothing but the weirdest reading of the Finnish-Estonian diplomatic relationships.

CRConrad2• 4 years ago

Unlike other east European countries Finland did nothing to clean the administration.

You seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that Finland belonged to the Soviet sphere, like "other east European countries". It never did. Demanding that it "clean the administration" after the fall of "Communism" / the Soviet Union is as moronic as demanding the same of, say, Luxembourg or Spain.

kolla• 4 years ago

Not often I see people trolling like this on HN.

Finnish diplomats have been targets of cyber espionage by Pegasus spyware

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