The Dangerous Push to Give Boosters to Teens

https://www.wsj.com/articles/dangerous-push-to-give-boosters-to-teens-vacccine-covid-19-omicron-vaxx-requirement-mandate-11640107759

by amznbyebyebye • 5 years ago

16 28 5 years ago

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amznbyebyebye3• 5 years ago

FTA >> The U.S. government is pushing Covid-19 vaccine boosters for 16- and 17-year-olds without supporting clinical data. A large Israeli population study, published in the New England Journal of Medicine earlier this month, found that the risk of Covid death in people under 30 with two vaccine shots was zero.

ouid• 5 years ago

There are many reasons to get a vaccine other than risk of death. For instance, lessening the severity of symptoms. The vaccines themselves are very safe.

CydeWeys• 5 years ago

Also, protecting those around you. It's very much in a teen's own self interest to not bring COVID home and put their parents (who support them) at risk.

WaitWaitWha• 5 years ago

The vaccines themselves are very safe.

Most drug development takes from initial research to FDA approval about 10 years[1]. Even with Priority Review, Breakthrough Therapy, Accelerated Approval, or Fast Track programs, the time is in several years.

I do not believe you have the scientific evidence to make your statement with great assurance.

[1]https://www.hiv.va.gov/patient/clinical-trials/drug-approval...

Vecr4• 5 years ago

As of December 17, Paul Offit (on the FDA advisory committee that voted against boosters) thinks that for young, healthy people the risk of getting the third dose is higher than the risk of not getting it. He also opposes third dose mandates. Go to 46 minutes on TWiV 844[0].

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkhN4rC19RI

amznbyebyebye3• 5 years ago

Any more details available on why the vaccines are risky? If FDA is saying this, it really makes you wonder.

Vecr4• 5 years ago

Offit's not the FDA, he's on the advisory committee that was ignored (the same one as in the article). The mRNA vaccines cause heart inflammation in some cases that is probably more risk than COVID-19 in a young healthy person already fully vaccinated with two doses. The FDA and CDC might disagree about that, but not calling VRBPAC and the ACIP back to look at data you might have to back that up looks quite suspicious. He goes on a bit of a rant about being ignored (twice apparently? Not sure the exact details.) at 25:20.

nojokes9• 5 years ago

He claims that he is not an anti-vaxxer but for sure sounds like one. Can somebody please point me out how Pfizer vaccine is causing more hearth AE in young people than COVID-19 does?

londgine2• 5 years ago

That depends on how you define anti-vaxxer. If you use webster's month old definition https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-vaxxer "a person who opposes the use of vaccines or regulations mandating vaccination" Then a whole lot of supposedly "reasonable" people (including myself) are anti-vaxxers. If however, you use the traditional definition, then the author is against boosters for under 18 year olds, but pro vaccines for all and boosters for 18+. That would make him a pro-vaxxer

nojokes9• 5 years ago

For me a clear separation is spreading false information about vaccine effectiveness and safety.

I could not see how any US approve COVID-19 vaccine for 16-17 year old is causing more hearth issues than COVID-19 does - quite opposite appears to be true based on the referenced Oxford study. Perhaps I am misinterpreting the study?

Vecr4• 5 years ago

I think some people's definition of an "anti-vaxer" is getting too enlarged. If Paul Offit (member of VRBPAC, and the author of a book titled "Deadly Choices: How the Anti-Vaccine Movement Threatens Us All"), the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP, the advisory group to the CDC), the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC, the advisory group for the FDA) are all anti-vaxers because they share similar views to the author, there might be a problem.

fizzledbits• 5 years ago

The charlatan also “predicted” we would achieve herd immunity in April 2020. https://www.wsj.com/articles/well-have-herd-immunity-by-apri...

His Twitter feed is a cesspool of motivated reasoning.

Lazy people posting crap like this to HN is what is bringing down the quality of this site.

The Dangerous Push to Give Boosters to Teens

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