Searchable flight logs from Jeffrey Epstein’s plane

by bananapear • 5 years ago

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vorpalhex• 5 years ago

I wish they would make the digitized data accessible for download. It would be interesting to pop this into a graph database.

epsteinflights6• 5 years ago

Email admin@epstein.flights and I'll give you the CSV I built the database from.

axolotl92• 5 years ago

all the data in JSON https://ghostbin.com/pvOpC and CSV https://ghostbin.com/0AUFe

boredumb5• 5 years ago

Cool project. Reminds me how peculiar it is that I had to endure rittenhouse and floyd trials livestreaming and analyzed by herds of talking heads and yet I don't even think they have a feed into ghislaine maxwells' trial that is now under way.

user-the-name• 5 years ago

Apparently it is not legal for a federal case.

robbiex883• 5 years ago

Was the Rittenhouse circus _not_ a federal case though?

boredumb5• 5 years ago

Thanks, I didn't know this.

robbiex883• 5 years ago

Yes I agree. Not discounting it by any means but it seems like the news cycle is dominated by the new COVID variant, yet I've seen literally nothing on this trial. Makes you wonder what's really going on and how deep the rot runs in this country.

mikeyouse5• 5 years ago

This is such a silly conspiracy theory in the most pejorative sense of the term -- there are literal front page stories on CNN/NYTimes/Fox News/MSNBC.

nikcub• 5 years ago

The NYTimes has a live blog - it was only pushed below the fold on the front page because of the school shooting:

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/11/30/nyregion/ghislaine-m...

It's also the main headline on the frontpage of the BBC atm:

https://www.bbc.com/news

Some people are mistaking not reading with it not being covered.

carabiner• 5 years ago

In an alternate timeline: Why is the media reporting so much on this Maxwell trial that has no material importance to society at large? Meanwhile, they're burying the new COVID variant that is killing people. Guess they're distracting us from a public health issue with a salacious scandal of the week.

rpmisms8• 5 years ago

It's really a shame. The Rittenhouse trial was fascinating and educational, this trial likely wouldn't be as educational, but the information should be out in the open.

If you're interested in learning more about the Rittenhouse trial, Rekieta Law on youtube is a lawyer who had a panel of lawyers analyze the case live with him. Absolutely awesome to get live strategic analysis on a criminal trial.

tinyhouse3• 5 years ago

Most of it was pretty predictable, not fascinating unless you're talking about the political aspect. For example, the dude who was shot in the arm testified and everyone was like "big win for Rittenhouse, he admitted he got shot only after he pointed a gun at Rittenhouse". Really? you have a video of the entire incident, do you need a testimony to figure it out? The one bit that was interesting though is how the shooting of Rosenbaum would be interpreted, as the video wasn't that good and it wasn't clear if self defense would qualify. But I kind of knew from the beginning after watching the videos that it's very unlikely the jury would claim it wasn't justified self defense beyond a reasonable doubt. I think without the political aspect it would've been a short and predictable trail. It's funny to me how much build up and cross interviews for an incident that was captured almost fully on video.

dheera2• 5 years ago

Also, the people at the trials love to waste time. I remember at the Floyd trial there was something to the tune of:

"You have a mobile device, right?"

"And a mobile device can record images, right?"

"And you were present at the scene, right?"

"And while you were present at the scene you had a mobile device, right?"

"And your mobile device is capable of recording images, right?"

"And you used your mobile device to record images, right?"

Like, fuck, you could have compressed that all into 1 question. I guess lawyers get paid $900 an hour so maybe that's part of it.

encryptluks2• 5 years ago

Rekieta law ended up being a panel of right-wing lawyers who constantly mocked a prosecution attorney over their weight. I think just watching the trial was sufficient in itself and didn't need a bunch of Jack Posobiec tweeting attorneys to help me understand it.

PeterisP• 5 years ago

Not from USA, but it seems quite common and reasonable that any trials of sex crimes (and especially sex crimes against minors) would be closed, if for no other reason than to protect the victims.

kredd• 5 years ago

I would say this trial isn't as polarizing, so we don't get social media fights between two groups of people. That's, after all, type of an engagement that boosts the trial's virality.

simonw• 5 years ago

I poked around and this is running off a GraphQL endpoint at https://api.epstein.flights/ - I pointed the GraphiQL desktop app at it and the following query returned some interesting data:

    {
      passengers {
        pageInfo {
          count
        }
        edges {
          __typename
          ... on VerifiedPassenger {
            id
            slug
            name
            biography
            wikipedia_link
            flightCount
            image
            histogram {
              month
              count
            }
          }
          ... on LiteralPassenger {
            literal
          }
        }
      }
    }

epsteinflights6• 5 years ago

Yep, it's all GraphQL - I built the site a few years ago to play around with Apollo and AWS's serverless GraphQL offering and then it kind of snowballed from there.

SixDouble5321• 5 years ago

AppSync is a hell of a drug.

tylergetsay• 5 years ago

What's this cost to host?

bloopernova• 5 years ago

Is there a way to verify that all the flight log is searched? i.e. no strategic omissions?

paulgb• 5 years ago

It isn't (yet) all the flight log data:

This entry does not appear on the website because it is included in the second group of records (described above), which are not yet completely digitized. This is not a political or editorial choice, we simply have not had time to add the logs from this release yet.

But I suppose the only way is to check the linked DocumentCloud documents, if you assume that the flight logs that came out through court discovery are reliable.

https://epstein.flights/about

adtac• 5 years ago

Clearly, the only solution is to put flight logs on the blockchain

kwertyoowiyop• 5 years ago

Can we mint some NFTs? Bored Billionaires Yacht Club?

simondotau• 5 years ago

I assume you're joking, but Poe's Law is a devilish thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

etc-hosts• 5 years ago

epstein.flights says their data is from: "The original PDF source for the data comes from documents revealed during two court cases: Epstein v. Edwards Giuffre v. Maxwell "

if you search for "Forester" in Epstein.flights (for Lynn Forester de Rothschild) https://epstein.flights/search/Forester you get 2 hits

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFe3fFyVUAABDEE?format=png&name=...

Business Insider recently claimed they got more flight data https://www.businessinsider.com/faa-accidentally-released-je... "The FAA accidentally disclosed more than 2,000 flight records associated with Jeffrey Epstein's private jets" If you search for Forester in this allegedly more complete dump, you get 4 more hits:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFe2ig4VUAEqzad?format=jpg&name=...

alex_young• 5 years ago

Some of these flights are pretty out there.

There are several with Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, Epstein, Maxwell, and a bunch of other people literally jumping from continent to continent, dropping people off and then picking them back up on subsequent flights.

https://epstein.flights/flight/124

prohobo3• 5 years ago

Well, when you think about it - it makes total sense. I imagine it felt like true freedom for them being 30000ft in the air with no one to barge in or stop them from doing what they wanted. The flight destinations were just pretense.

dustintrex• 5 years ago

Which is totally why you'd fly from straightlaced Singapore to teetotaling Brunei with the ex-President of the USA on board -- so convenient and inconspicuous!

V__2• 5 years ago

You can think of Bill Clinton all you want, but do you think he would be stupid enough to do it with Secret Service on board and basically watching him? Not one flight mentions him before his presidency.

mikeyouse5• 5 years ago

The Clinton flights in the logs were part of some Clinton Foundation trip to Africa to raise funds for AIDS support. Tucker/Spacey were along to raise awareness.. all reported contemporaneously, eg;

https://khn.org/morning-breakout/dr00013711/

BizarroLand• 5 years ago

Realistically, if you want to get away with committing crimes, the best way to do that is to also not commit crimes.

"I make this flight 15 times a year for philanthropic reasons, sometimes even with famous people" is a much better cover for sex trafficking than anything else I can think of.

Maybe many of the famous people are squeaky clean, and it's a select few famous people and a lot of wealthy but unknown people who were flying Epstein air for nefarious purposes.

Jtsummers• 5 years ago

https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/Actor-Comic-Pr...

That flight lines up with a tour of several African countries by that group.

(first article I found searching for "chris tucker ghana 2002")

hogFeast• 5 years ago

Ron Durkle isn't unidentified, it is Ron Burkle.

EDIT: Another one is Jimmy cayne, he was CEO of Bear Stearns.

el_nahual• 5 years ago

How about a LinkedIn integration that cross-references your contacts with the flight logs. That would be interesting.

glaucon• 5 years ago

Looking at these logs is it reasonable to comment that up until 2005 if you were offered a lift by Jeffrey you wouldn't think "oh, but he's a sexual predator !" ? That up until that date the only public information on poor behaviour by him was the sort of financial sleaze that people in his position usually have in their backgrounds ?

I'm only going off a quick Wikipedia read but if it's true I think it's worth saying because there are a number of "famous" people who got their rides in the jet well before that date.

Not wishing to make a case for sleaze balls but interested in truth as well.

Stevvo• 5 years ago

I doubt the security services would let Bill Clinton fly on the jet 22 times if they knew anything.

mam4• 5 years ago

I doubt the security services would oppose Bill Clinton doing whatever he wants

literallyaduck• 5 years ago

https://epstein.flights/flight/57

Naomi Campbell and Clinton on the same flight. I bet that was an interesting flight.

mikeyouse5• 5 years ago

Naomi was dating Clinton's advisor Doug Band (or potentially Clinton himself?) at the time..

https://www.vogue.co.uk/article/naomis-clinton-connection

spookthesunset• 5 years ago

It would be cool to have a page that simply listed all the people who are in the DB and let you click to their flights. An index, so to speak.

mlindner• 5 years ago

The obsession with a dead horrible person on the internet is frankly ridiculous. People seem to be unable to not keep talking about him and whoever he ever talked to.

reducesuffering• 5 years ago

There are many dead horrible people. There are very few that have connections to the most powerful people and died mysteriously under intense supervision with videos malfunctioning and guards avoiding their duties.

polartx• 5 years ago

“The obsession“ is over the still yet living patrons/associates/partakers of this particular “dead horrible person”. And the intrigue that, perhaps finally, the wealthy elite may face actual consequences to the morally bankrupt behavior they exhibit.

epsteinflights6• 5 years ago

Hey - creator and admin of the site here. Didn't ever expect to see this on HN! I built this about two years ago - looks like it's picking up some traffic this week due to the new trial. Happy to answer any questions.

(Account is new because I don't want this project associated with my regular account and my professional portfolio. Shoot me an email at the address on the site if you'd like me to confirm I'm the admin.)

tzs• 5 years ago

Shoot me an email at the address on the site if you'd like me to confirm I'm the admin

Why not cut out the email step and just add to the "contact" section on the about page a note that you are also on HN as 'epsteinflights'?

People who want to take you up on your verification offer are going to have to go to the "contact" section on the about page anyway to get the email address, so might as well take care of the verification right there.

epsteinflights6• 5 years ago

Sure, done.

themantra514• 5 years ago

Relevant:Epstein's Little Black Book https://epsteinsblackbook.com

epsteinflights6• 5 years ago

Business Insider also made searchable versions of both the black book[1] and the flight logs[2] - they're done to a much more professional standard than my buggy little side project is, but they're both unfortunately behind a paywall.

[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/search-jeffrey-epsteins-litt... [2]: https://www.businessinsider.com/every-flight-made-by-jeffrey...

Searchable flight logs from Jeffrey Epstein’s plane

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