Jonathan's Card 2.0

http://www.talkaboutdesign.com/starbucks/

by NickKampe • 15 years ago

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Tichy• 15 years ago

If they don't have an API, why does it say "Opps! Look's like I'm Empty!" on the web site? If they show the current balance there, they have an API.

terinjokes• 15 years ago

It might just say "there's money", not an exact figure like the first card… Who knows, I haven't actually seen the page with the card having any cash on it

chromedude• 15 years ago

It seems like the owner manually updates the page.

gojomo4• 15 years ago

Er, as far as I can tell:

• this isn't associated with Jonathan but uses his name

• this isn't associated with Starbucks but uses their logo

• it's already empty

• there's no details to suggest that the previous transfer-balance vulnerability has been closed – only that it's now harder to optimize the attack by knowing when the active card has a fat balance

• the usable card number will change regularly so as to confuse both attackers and users, and putting primarily the site maintainer in full control of all monies deposited

What is this supposed to achieve? Are you really Sam Odio trying to prove another point?

insomnie6• 15 years ago

Maybe the point is to simply continue something great. And prevent people like Sam sitting at starbucks with his laptop playing songs every time the card reached a high balance.

jrockway3• 15 years ago

this isn't associated with Jonathan but uses his name

My name is Jonathan and I give this guy permission to use it. If you don't want someone to name their knock-off after your product, maybe don't name it after a common first name :)

dregger• 15 years ago

By your logic, I should be able to make my own Craig's List.

gojomo4• 15 years ago

Alas, that's not how it works for trademark law, or common courtesy. The relevant standard is whether use is likely to confuse.

By calling this "Jonathan's Card 2.0", and their explicit references, they're clearly trying to portray this as an official successor from the same agent(s). If Jonathan Card "1.0" cared about this, he could object on both legal and ethical grounds.

NathanKP• 15 years ago

So as a test I donated $10 to the card:

http://i.imgur.com/2p3gK.png

And the balance still shows as empty. It's probably a scam. (Or someone has already found a way to siphon the money off immediately.) I don't care personally, its just $10 for me, but I thought you all might like to know the results I got.

Edit: Never mind, it just took about 10 minutes for the main page to update. Here's to the good people and coffee drinkers of the world. ;)

insomnie6• 15 years ago

I'm seeing $120 it's prob not real time. It says on his page that he gets the data somewhere else and then updates it.

NickKampe• 15 years ago

I used it earlier, and it worked like a charm. The page now displays $120 donated.

radicalbyte• 15 years ago

Oh look, it's a cheap marketing trick. Ad. Blocked.

jmtame• 15 years ago

I can confirm this works, just grabbed a coffee. I'll donate $10 when I get back home.

Edit: donated using my iPhone. Neat project, great hack.

insomnie6• 15 years ago

I can confirm this works. Just bought a latte!

gsivil• 15 years ago

meta: I already miss the days that we were grilling AirBnB or even the bitcoin days.

_rs• 15 years ago

Any idea how they're changing the number? Sounds like it'd have to be a manual process rather than something they could automate.

aforty3• 15 years ago

Jonathan 1.0 automated it, why couldn't they? To curb abuse they are probably just not polling/updating as often. Who knows.

sunsu• 15 years ago

It's my understanding that in 1.0, the card barcode/number never changed, so it couldn't have been automated. Someone correct me if I misunderstood.

aforty3• 15 years ago

Got myself a caramel macchiato. Works and I'll definitely donate later.

Hopefully this lasts and doesn't get abused.

ookblah• 15 years ago

Someone should create a jonathan's card aggregator of all sites attempting to do this. Yeahyuh.

dsmith_hacker2• 15 years ago

Just used it in the W Seattle area... worked.

I will put $10 on it next Friday (if it lasts that long).

chrischen• 15 years ago

"My guess is that Jonathan made a big mistake by releasing API to keep track of cards balance."

Er... Wasn't the API part of the experiment? It wasn't really a mistake then if the experiment was undefined.

insomnie6• 15 years ago

Put $10 on it this morning. Enjoy.

dsmith_hacker2• 15 years ago

Thank you, you made my day! Tall mocha :)

I just hope it's still around by Friday so I can put some money on it.

insomnie6• 15 years ago

Your welcome. Hope this keeps going as well.

warrantsuspect• 15 years ago

I got a coffee earlier. Says total amount donated $130. Not bad for one day. Will put some money on it later.

insomnie6• 15 years ago

Added more money to it. Enjoy, and give back.

Jonathan's Card 2.0

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