.NET Gadgeteer (Open Source Arduino-like devices for .NET)

by Jarred • 15 years ago

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angusgr3• 15 years ago

See also http://netduino.com/ for a very similar project that's been around for a while, albeit not with Microsoft sponsoring it.

At this point it seems pretty much another "me-too" Arduino[1]. The noteworthy fact, I guess, is that it's coming from a major software company not an embedded company this time, and that it's open source hardware/software from Microsoft (OSS libraries not tools/runtime.)

Microsoft have been trundling along with .NET microframework/robotics studio/etc for quite a while now, is this a sign of an escalating push into the hobbyist/education/maker space?

[1] As per http://antipastohw.blogspot.com/2010/12/end-of-open-source-h... Similar other examples include chipKIT Max32, TI Launchpad.

Jarred• 15 years ago

If this was the same price as Arduino, this would more than likely change Arduino's market dominance. Microsoft's development tools along with C# makes this much more exciting than most of what Arduino has to offer.

angusgr3• 15 years ago

Oh wow, I hadn't looked at the price. $119 for the FEZ spider mainboard, and $249 for the starter kit. Education market, I guess?

The Netduino is $39 (admittedly, GHIs other smaller "non-gadgeteer" FEZ products compete with that), Netduino Plus (ethernet/SD) is $59, but the FEZ does have a ton more features than either.

And I guess presumably we can expect more "gadgeteer clones" in the next year or so.

As for Arduino's market dominance, it seems like suitability/competitiveness really depends on what you want to build. This stuff is several levels up in terms of abstraction and features. Some projects will embrace that, for some it'll just be window dressing.

Regarding development tools, TI has a really convenient USB-driven live debugger for their MSP platform, AFAIK including the Launchpad boards. Arduino is still the market leader, despite an absolutely bare-bones (but dead simple) IDE. Maybe Visual Studio tools will tip the balance, I don't know.

It'll be an interesting space to watch, that's for sure.

xpaulbettsx• 15 years ago

The unique thing about .NET Gadgeteer is how easy it is to connect and reconfigure different components, even complex ones like cameras. MSR uses it to prototype hardware devices and they wanted to release it externally:

http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/news/features/gadgeteer-...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRX_rdlCkUQ

sjs• 15 years ago

This is pretty cool. Turns out it runs the .NET microframework which is a Microsoft project to bring .NET to embedded devices. It brings embedded devices closer to a lot of people which seems good for everyone. I was skeptical about it being a real "open source platform" as they say but it really is. Not 100% open but boy is it good for MS. I wonder if they've opened up any more since then.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/netmfteam/archive/2009/11/15/net-mic...

JL2010• 15 years ago

I have one of GHI's budget offerings in arduino form factor, the FEZ Panda II, and I really like it. In terms of quick prototyping and debugging I think the .NET Micro-framework is a hit.

However, I don't see it being useful outside of the hobbyist/prototyping domain. The run-time environment would be considered too bloated for the purpose of simple embedded systems (by simple I mean without an OS/RTOS) and requires more expensive hardware to support it.

However, I'm quite happy using C# and the .NET libraries! I'm putting together a wireless sensor network with a coordinator that doubles as an embedded web server to control various things via a web interface :D. Development time has definitely been reduced compared to writing everything in C.

hc5• 15 years ago

That "i" at the top of the page is really bothering me...

FrojoS• 15 years ago

Great. Kudus for Microsoft for ending the need for bitmanipulation.

What I always wonder is, how do you commonly go ahead, once you build a successful prototype? Say you want to produce something like 10,000 devices. The Arduino or here the Gadgeteer, is a bit expensive for that. Do you have to start from scratch again, with something like a TI MSP?

.NET Gadgeteer (Open Source Arduino-like devices for .NET)

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