Kodak deletes Xinjiang photo from Instagram, vows to 'respect Chinese gov't'

https://hongkongfp.com/2021/07/21/kodak-deletes-xinjiang-photo-from-instagram-vows-to-respect-chinese-govt/

by pcaversaccio • 5 years ago

79 25 5 years ago

robgibbons• 5 years ago

Wack described his images as a visual narrative of Xinjiang’s “abrupt descent into an Orwellian dystopia” over the past five years.

I believe the preferred nomenclature of the Party is "Orwellian dystopia with Chinese characteristics"

eurasiantiger• 5 years ago

Welp, no need to ever buy Kodak products again.

deltasixeight6• 5 years ago

Businesses shouldn't care about business they should only care about my own personal view point on politics.

Yeah, Hollywood is doing the same thing as Kodak. I don't have your will power though. I still watch movies, especially Marvel and Disney. But at least I admit it.

What pisses me off is a friend of mine who boycotted a company who supported China but then he still watches American movies. Like do you not realize the whole industry is sucking up to China? Either make a stand for real or don't make a stand at all, don't be a hypocrite.

*Obviously* you're not doing what my friend is doing. You're *Obviously* not a hypocrite. You must not watch any movies or TV shows at all.

vimacs23• 5 years ago

I'm fairly critical of the efficacy of boycotts but your anger at your friend seems motivated by a desire to rationalize your own complacency.

We live in a society that is built on a fundamentally unjust framework. It's practically impossible to avoid being tied to exploitative supply chains short of living off the grid and hand making all your own clothes and farming your own produce - and even then you will need to effectively pay tribute to your local municipality or risk falling victim to state violence.

However, incomplete abstinence is better than no abstinence. Every product you refuse to buy is another dollar that these greedy amoral profiteers are deprived from. I think that counts for something, even if it is not a complete solution.

As for media specifically, piracy is still a thing. Just saying ;)

Nextgrid• 5 years ago

You mean Kodak actually still makes something that you can buy?

ramesh31• 5 years ago

So long as our government refuses to materially oppose the CCP regime in any way, this will continue to be the correct move for corporations. Generate some bad press in the West, maybe be targeted with a half hearted slacktivist hashtag "boycott" that will be forgotten in a week, and in return for kissing the ring maintain access to a market of over a billion other consumers. It's a no-brainer.

torstenvl• 5 years ago

I think you're getting downvoted because people don't want what you're saying to be true, not because anyone thinks it's actually false. Unfortunately, the U.S. has lost sight of the fact that you get what you incentivize. I am upset at Kodak for this, but it was a rational decision given the incentive structure.

deltasixeight6• 5 years ago

The US government doesn't incentivize companies in this way.

Mostly the US government creates incentives related to:

  - Economic policy
  - Environmental policy 
  - Public Health

Economic sanctions aren't done to incentivize companies. They are done to impose political will and they are usually done on countries that have little business influence.

Generally, International Politics are never are a part of "incentives." For international politics you and I are the incentive.

If you refuse to buy a product because the company doesn't align with your viewpoint of international politics, then you have created an incentive.

deltasixeight6• 5 years ago

The US government refuses to materially oppose the CCP regime in any way BECAUSE of corporations. Corporations have more influence on daily life and government policy than anything else out there. Part of the "correct move" by corporations is to influence this policy to allow corporations to profit off of China.

Also logistically given globalization if China was actually boycotted it would do a lot of collateral damage in addition to intended damages.

LocalH• 5 years ago

Kodak matters? I figured they'd gone the way of RCA and Westinghouse

beezischillin• 5 years ago

Last I heard of them was when they offered to help manufacture vaccines last year, but I haven’t really seen them around in the consumer space for ages. Perhaps they do industrial manufacturing?

nineteen999• 5 years ago

They filed for bankruptcy protection in 2012. Good article on the missteps they made during the start of the digital photography age is here:

https://hbr.org/2016/07/kodaks-downfall-wasnt-about-technolo...

villgax2• 5 years ago

Patents I guess

nielsbot• 5 years ago

So, can we see the photo? Now I want to see it.

villgax2• 5 years ago

Didn't exactly expect a dead company to have a spine.

spacecadet1900• 5 years ago

Absolutely sickening groveling. American companies need to uphold American values. Global capitalism lets them cater to the worst actors.

native_samples• 5 years ago

This is hardly the fault of global capitalism, given that China is a communist country, that western culture is also quite clear that corporations may not fight back against abuses of government power. We expect companies to kneel before our own governments, we cannot therefore be upset when they kneel for all governments.

deltasixeight6• 5 years ago

Corporations kneel to short term profit. Thus they will kneel to anything if it means increasing short term profit.

Any company that gets political, does so as a means of increasing or defending short term profits.

It's how capitalism works. Corporations are just brainless cogs with the one task of increasing short term profits.

Kodak is sort of in a tough situation here.

peanut_worm• 5 years ago

Surprised Kodak hasn’t gone out of business yet. Spineless.

rayiner• 5 years ago

The spineless groveling at the feet of the CCP candidly reveals how a significant portion of our corporate executives are gutless wimps.

_imnothere• 5 years ago

Okay, nice censorship, now someone please post the deleted photo to f* em', thanks.

Kodak deletes Xinjiang photo from Instagram, vows to 'respect Chinese gov't'

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