DPA blocks facial recognition system in Italy and MP proposes moratorium

https://reclaimyourface.eu/italy-dpa-blocks-facial-recognition-system-mp-proposes-moratorium/

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gcthomas• 5 years ago

The UK Met Police have been using facial recognition systems on London without regulation for a while, under the same law, - it'd be nice for our ICO to make a ruling on it.

hellbannedguy• 5 years ago

We need to block it on a federal level in the USA. Don't allow any state to use facial recognition software for any reason, except maybe at airports, but only for terrorism---not for any other reason.

zo1• 5 years ago

Sounds like a modern-day version of Luddism.

We don't need to block it. We need to embrace it and make sure it's used properly, safely and with accountability. We're not talking about nuclear warheads here. There has to be a safe and secure way to get the benefits of large-scale and centralized facial-recognition and tracking.

jhgb• 5 years ago

We're not talking about nuclear warheads here.

True, we're talking about something worse. The danger is higher and the detectability and barriers to entry are lower.

Jiejeing• 5 years ago

We need to embrace it and make sure it's used properly

This has never worked, period.

zthrowaway• 5 years ago

There’s a point where things can go too far. When we have machines violating our privacy and manipulating social expression (behaviors change when people know they are being watched and tracked), that’s a problem. In the end it’s corporations and governments doing this, why all of a sudden have we forgotten how most of the time they don’t have our best interest in mind and only greed and power?

selfhoster113• 5 years ago

We're not talking about nuclear warheads here.

No, we're not. Those damage the physical world. Facial recognition will damage something else in the long run - the society - which is just as dangerous.

simion314• 5 years ago

What are the benefits? The only thing I can think might be that for a shot while you can catch some criminals but as they learned to use gloves they will learn to use masks,

After that what benefits are there for creating a database with everyone historical location?

toyg5• 5 years ago

but only for terrorism

That little loophole right there would soon be big enough to let through a freight train.

prox• 5 years ago

Exactly, the definition of terrorist is very malleable in the hands of despots.

tomcooks3• 5 years ago

Isn't terrorism specifically the reason behind the Patriot Act and all limitations that American citizens are suffering?

selfhoster113• 5 years ago

Colour me skeptical. The USA pioneered such abusive innovations as perpetual copyright, pervasive hardware-level DRM and rootkits, and surveillance capitalism. I can't see protections against something as powerful as facial recognition coming from a society that didn't oppose similarly abusive tech.

tzs• 5 years ago

The USA pioneered such abusive innovations as perpetual copyright

The US change from a fixed 28 year term that could be renewed once to a life of author + 50 years term was done to match the minimum term allowed under the Berne Convention, which most of the world had already done decades before.

In 1998 the US lengthened the term again, to life + 70 years. That one was to match Europe, which had made that change in 1993.

crocodiletears• 5 years ago

I'm pretty sure the only way to block it is at the local level. There is no compelling incentive for the federal government to not support the expansion of facial recognition technologies.

Our politicians might be convinced to introduce token pieces of legislation that can conveniently be voted down by the other side, and just enough of their fellow party members. But that's about it.

snarf21• 5 years ago

Who will watch the watchers? It isn't like there was no crime/terrorism before 1995. Look at how ex-AG Barr wanted backdoors in everything but they "promised" to only use it responsibly and with warrants. Do you sincerely believe that?

cblconfederate• 5 years ago

I still nod in disbelief when i see people unlocking with faceid. Apple may be privacy conscious, but they made face recognition cheap and ubiquitous. The pervasive use of face recognition should be considered a mark of a prison state, a country where people don't trust each other and it is only held together under the watchful eye of the prison guards.

toyg5• 5 years ago

It also makes it trivial to unlock your phone under coercion. Same for fingerprints. Whereas nobody can (yet) get a code out of your brain.

mids_hn• 5 years ago

They can, however, still coerce you to give away your text-based password. I agree, though, that slicing one's finger off is simpler for all parties.

xxs3• 5 years ago

fingerprint is actually extra easy - the phone is plastered with them.

zaychikk• 5 years ago

There are a number of ways to quickly disable faceid if you need to, the simplest being holding the power off buttons for just a few seconds.

notimetorelax• 5 years ago

Imagine a nightmare if this thing erroneously matches you with a criminal.

brodock2• 5 years ago

In italy...

tomcooks3• 5 years ago

What about Italy?

Are there more criminals in that country as opposed to other places?

sadris• 5 years ago

You get arrested. Then police take a closer look, then release you...

DPA blocks facial recognition system in Italy and MP proposes moratorium

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