Google App Engine team answering about New Pricing (ongoing FAQ)

https://groups.google.com/d/topic/google-appengine/ob-kMuDAAqc/discussion

by vanni • 15 years ago

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ultrasaurus2• 15 years ago

"Based on the feedback we’ve received we are changing this $9 fee to be a minimum spend rather than a fee a originally listed. "

That makes a lot of sense, I have a few apps that I get bills for a few cents here and there, that can't be cost effective after credit card fees.

vanni• 15 years ago

Maybe you misunderstood the point.

$9 will not be a fee, but a minimum spend.

If your effective resource usage is <$9 you'll pay a $9 bill (not $9 + the bill amount, as previously Google stated); if your bill is >= $9 you'll pay that bill amount (not $9 + the bill amount, as previously Google stated).

It is however a good change.

Hope it helps.

ramses02• 15 years ago

Yes. On months you go over the old free limit by $0.05, you will be charged $9.00 instead of their proposed $9.05.

On months you go over the old free limit by $12.34 you will be charged $12.34 instead of $21.34.

It is a good change (minimum spend v. privilege to pay) but still quite a big change from the old pricing structure.

ultrasaurus2• 15 years ago

Yes that was my understanding. I was using a simple GAE app to serve some of the static content for some sites (GAE is a favourite tool in my toolbox). It was fast and I rarely went over 1gb/day but when I did it would only cost a few cents.

I expect that is exactly the kind of application that they want to dissuade with this change.

wiradikusuma• 15 years ago

I'm glad they listen to us GAE users. I've been advocating the platform to friends since it was first introduced. Any other fellow GAE users here? I remember in the GAE mailing list somebody said that VCs generally don't like GAE. Is the sentiment still like that?

davepeck2• 15 years ago

I use GAE for a lot of projects that I've worked on (getcloak.com, walkscore.com, wherebe.us) and the pricing changes are going to hit me hard.

I've been a strong GAE proponent since the very early days [1]; GAE's sudden price announcement has made me question my belief in PaaS. Perhaps IaaS really is the level to build on: unless you're using bespoke stuff like AWS auto-scaling you can plausibly keep your infrastructure code "on the outside" of the service itself.

[1] Here's my talk at I/O 2009, when App Engine was young! http://www.google.com/events/io/2009/sessions/AppEngineNitty...

DennisP• 15 years ago

Have you priced out what your projects would likely cost on AWS or other services?

nikcub• 15 years ago

I have been totally in love with GAE for almost two years now. Working on four different projects at the moment, all of them on GAE.

I have convinced all my clients this year to do their new projects on GAE.

The first thing I worked on was a simple abstraction library to sit on top of GAE so you could port away from it easily if you need to later on. I plan on releasing the code at some point in the next few months (the db part is the hardest, going to support running on Riak for now)

Also, I recently integrated the Google Prediction API into a product. Damn that thing is hot - coolest new thing I have played with in a long time. Those additional service API's make GAE a dream.

Info_Addict• 15 years ago

They changed the pricing model to remove the usefulness of the platform for small projects. Getting rid of the riff-raff. Practical evil elitism at work.

itsnotvalid• 15 years ago

Now it is much harder for people who haven't got any billing needs to try GAE seriously.

So people can only make testing app that doesn't cost anything or $9 for each paid app. Judging from the "tick" list (marketing props) there is not much you would get for $9 one.

Google App Engine team answering about New Pricing (ongoing FAQ)

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