Public static final int EM_NATION_TYPE_UYGUR = 1;

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by q3k • 6 years ago

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q3k• 6 years ago

Direct link to the code: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gaomingbo/dahua-netsdk/mas...

nabla9• 6 years ago

Dahua Technology - Leading Video Surveillance Solutions.

rasz2• 6 years ago

I kept reading Dachau and wondering WTF is this.

ars2• 6 years ago

Is the constant used anywhere? What does it change?

boruto• 6 years ago

https://github.com/hysios/dhnetsdk.v2/blob/815d0dece7f79d478... In go as well.

cirosantilli2• 6 years ago

Do we have any proof that this code actually comes from the company in question? E.g. can it be found under https://www.dahuasecurity.com/support/downloadCenter/downloa... ?

cirosantilli2• 6 years ago

OK https://www.dahuasecurity.com/support/downloadCenter/softwar... it is inside General_NetSDK_ChnEng_JAVA_Linux64_IS_V3.052.0000001.0.R.200407

dgentile• 6 years ago

From purely a programming perspective: Have they not heard of enums?

zingplex2• 6 years ago

Following in the proud tradition of IBM I see [1] and Facebook [2][3]. At this point it may be worth considering creating a professional code of ethics saying something about genocide being bad.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/IBM-Holocaust-Strategic-Alliance-Corp... [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/technology/myanmar-facebo... [3] https://www.vice.com/en/article/xg897a/hate-speech-on-facebo...

mgraczyk2• 6 years ago

I'd say there is a pretty big difference between actively building software to accomplish a goal, vs failing to remove content posted by others to accomplish their goals.

zingplex2• 6 years ago

I don't think that made what I said any less true. Obviously I'm not saying that Facebook is flagging people to be put in concentration camps or doing anything akin to that. What I am saying is that our industry has been complicit in multiple genocides at this point and I think we should do something about that.

When you become a doctor you must take the Hippocratic oath, I don't see any harm in considering adopting something like that.

curiousgal• 6 years ago

This is absolutely disheartening. You would think, seeing how ferociously people attack Holocaust deniers, that we have learned our lesson but it is absolutely not the case.

ars2• 6 years ago

"Never again". And here it's happening right in front of our eyes.

And no one can do anything because a war with China would be worse, and because China is not attacking outside its own borders.

There's some quote I can't find about countries that only do atrocities inside their borders are never held to account for them.

valbaca• 6 years ago

To help someone else with context:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghurs

ddevault2• 6 years ago

Code like this doesn't happen unless a programmer sits down and writes it. You have a responsibility to refuse to write code which is morally wrong. This is the cost if you don't: real human lives.

gregoriol• 6 years ago

In China programmers probably can't refuse without very huge consequences for them and their own families.

ddevault2• 6 years ago

Perhaps. But I'm appealing to HN readers here, not to China.

strogonoff3• 6 years ago

There was another time, not long ago, when people justified doing or facilitating vile things against masses of fellow humans as “just following orders”.

Their point is valid—refusing might cost own life, and there's the prisoner's dilemma, etc. A situation like that seems unlikely to be resolved from within a system itself.

However, appeals to consequences aside, in the end each of us has a choice: write that code (slash architect that solution) or not.

Analemma_• 6 years ago

Unfortunately I doubt fear of reprisal was the motivating factor behind whoever wrote this code.

jgwil2• 6 years ago

So, github should terminate this account immediately. But why is this source open to begin with?

uranusjr• 6 years ago

Because you have the code, and why not? The same mentality as everyone sharing mp3 online back in the day.

inshadows• 6 years ago

Why? Is censorship in free society going to help? How?

HN should terminate your account immediately. See? It works both ways. Don't play with fire.

busrf• 6 years ago

This makes me sick, because I could see myself and many people I know doing the same thing, under the right circumstances, without even very much coercion needed, just writing a bit of business logic...

Totalitarianism is sustained by ordinary people looking forward to shipping the feature and having a nice dinner out on the weekend.

szatkus• 6 years ago

https://twitter.com/q3k/status/1322949727600680962/photo/1

I'm wondering what -1 could mean in that context.

SteveHawk27• 6 years ago

That comment translates to: "charm value, -1 means invalid, 0 means not recognized, it ranges from 1-100 when detecting, higher the score means more charming."

the_resistence• 6 years ago

Never forget.

rambojazz• 6 years ago

[disclaimer] Coming from EU context.

Sorry but what is the issue here? Because they use a special value for Uyghurs? We don't know the context why they did that, do we? Maybe it is totally fine. I would not see a problem with any other _NATION value...

rasz2• 6 years ago

Imagine UK company providing hardware for their CCTV network had this code under the hood:

    EM_NATION_TYPE_PIKEY = 1

Public static final int EM_NATION_TYPE_UYGUR = 1;

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