Show HN: Vuru - A Tool to Help Pick High Quality, Undervalued Stocks

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by yoseph • 15 years ago

10 4 15 years ago

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Hey guys. For the past 8 months, we've been bootstrapping Vuru and the advice of the HN community has helped us shape our product and business. We are really appreciative of all that we've gotten out of the community and we want to share what we've built.

We've recently launched our product, have some paying customers (woohoo!), and we'd love to get your feedback on anything and everything.

Check us out at http://www.vuru.co (clickable link in the comments).

In advance, thanks for your time!

yoseph2• 15 years ago

Clickable: http://www.vuru.co

choffstein• 15 years ago

Great looking site and product!!

As someone who is in the financial industry (creating investment models), it seems to me like the real product here you are selling is the Vuru grade. There are already plenty of other screeners out there -- I don't really need another (though I like your UI).

With that said, I would like more info about the Vuru grade and how it has performed. 10 yr, 5 yr, and 3 yr info isn't relevant anymore in the industry -- not without more information than you have provided. How many holdings per year? What's the turnover like? What's the peak to trough draw-down? How have the quantiles performed (e.g. how do those 90+ perform compared to those 10+)? If you showed me that since 2000, there is a linear relationship between the Vuru rank and annual returns, then it would be a product I could get into. On the other hand, if you show me that I have to buy the 900 stocks that are rated 90+, it's just another unrealistic academic portfolio.

My recommendation? Take the S&P 500, Nasdaq 100, and DJIA since 2000. Show portfolios on each made of 90+, <10, etc -- rebalanced annually and monthly. Show the number of holdings per rebalance period. What I want to see is that if I rebalance my portfolio of the stocks rated 90+ in the S&P 500 every quarter, how am I going to perform versus just the S&P.

I guess all I am trying to say is, please, please, please give me a REALISTIC portfolio and its performance (even if it is backtested) over the last 10 years and give me summary stats every rebalance period. I want to isolate the power of the Vuru grade and take out all the other noise around it.

Best of luck! I look forward to seeing how this evolves!

yoseph2• 15 years ago

Great feedback! Thanks.

We're definitely going to add more detail to our backtesting page, as you suggested. Just so you know, the maximum number of holdings over the past ten years was 31.

Keep in touch with us! We'd definitely like to get your opinion once we've updated the page. What's your email? Mine is yoseph at vuru.co

aquark• 15 years ago

I like the concept, but the basic plan has me confused.

I signed up, clicked around a bit, looked at a number of reports and now every stock I click on reports 'You have analyzed 10 stocks, which is the limit for Vuru Basic' ... even stocks I previously clicked on.

Does this mean my account is toast? How does it relate to the 30 listed on the signup page?

I think you need to expand the 'free' offering a bit. Maybe make the data it presents a bit less precise, for example show the Vuru grade as a range, eg. 50-60 rather than a price number to give people more incentive to upgrade. As it was I felt I burnt through the 'free' stuff to quickly to make a decision (and I hate signing up for time limited free trials!)

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