Cloudcraft – Architect and budget cloud infrastructure

https://www.cloudcraft.co/

by aussieguy1234 • 6 years ago

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gscho• 6 years ago

I really enjoy using this product for creating architecture diagrams! I would never use it to creat budgets though. I hope it expands to other clouds and frameworks and then I would pay for it over lucidchart.

nullpage• 6 years ago

I've enjoyed playing around with this product, but I wish there was a tier between free and pro that added infinite drawing without such a steep price. I'm not really interested in the sync stuff, but would happily pay a little to add infinite grid to the features otherwise included in the free tier.

nikolay• 6 years ago

If it wasn't $50/month, they'd have made tons of money from me without using it. But I had it for a few months and simply canceled. You can't have a service for $49 when a whole server is $5 nowadays and GitHub is $7/month. Plus, when you can do it with code like with this [0] too, why use a GUI/WUI?

[0] https://diagrams.mingrammer.com/

blackoil• 6 years ago

If they reduce price to $10/m they'll need 5x customers to reach same revenue, as there are some variable costs, to reach same profit they'll need even more customers. Most of these new customers wouldn't be power users so they'll have a diverse set of expectations / requirements from the software.

Not sure about the no. $50 but it may be a conscious and valid choice.

rumanator4• 6 years ago

If they reduce price to $10/m they'll need 5x customers to reach same revenue

This assertion could only start to make any sense if you believe that the law of supply and demand doesn't exist, and that economies of scale don't apply.

Meanwhile, I am a paying customer of cloud providers eventhough I don't use them just because they are affordable. This service expects that people like me spend 600€/year when I can have the same exact service somewhere else for 60€/year.

sabalaba• 6 years ago

Trust me, they don't care that you're gone. If you aren't willing to pay $50 / month, you're not their target customer.

rumanator4• 6 years ago

What a weird comment. I mean, it adds nothing to the discussion and intentionally sidesteps the core of any service: it's business model.

If you refuse to even discuss the pricing model of a service, why bother wasting your time posting anything at all?

devonkim2• 6 years ago

The long tail of AWS customers is pretty rocky and is a revenue risk as well. Why deal with folks that can come and go so quickly when stable, sustainable revenue is what matters more for a growing company? Most AWS consultants and devopsy / SRE types IME are hired around the lower to mid 5 figure monthly spend mark depending upon growth to warrant their cost and at that point $50 / mo is hardly even mentioned. Heck, even hiring a consultant instead of hiring engineers with experience in the first place is a bit of an old school thing and implies legacy or not a start-up kind of businesses (lift and shifts, that is).

timwis• 6 years ago

I used this once and couldn’t believe there was no way to make it not 3-D. At least not that I could figure out.

jk563• 6 years ago

At the top right (near the "export" button) is a toggle to go between 3D and 2D.

dijit• 6 years ago

I actually love this tool, but i wish it supported google cloud also.

UMetaGOMS• 6 years ago

Draw.io does everything I need for free, and is about 80% "good enough" in terms of output quality. I would love to use this tool for the aesthetic benefits, but would struggle to justify even $10 for the sake of ~1 diagram per month.

CapriciousCptl• 6 years ago

Cloudcraft is used by a tons of AWS consultants. I think that's the disconnect seeing a lot of comments here, people spending less than $ thousands/year on AWS just aren't their target customers. Meanwhile, Cloudcraft is minting money.

esoterae2• 6 years ago

This needs to be able to read my terraform statefiles

devonkim2• 6 years ago

Hashicorp’s hosted Terraform service has cost estimation built in nowadays and you can setup Sentinel rules to keep people from deploying infrastructure changes that are beyond a certain cost ceiling (or below)

esoterae2• 6 years ago

Thank you for telling me about that, I didn't know. However, I'm most interested in a product able to bridge my statefiles into coherent visual representations of state, either within a single statefile or more importantly across several. The cost aspect seems a secondary concern.

tl;dr: Creating dynamic visual layouts from terraform state would be worth >= 50USD/mo to me.

Cloudcraft – Architect and budget cloud infrastructure

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