Tesla drops Model Y price by $3k

https://www.engadget.com/tesla-model-y-price-drop-215340622.html

by PaulWaldman • 6 years ago

23 39 6 years ago

There are many reports of poor quality from current Model Y deliveries. Interesting that they would try to ramp up sales and subsequently production before addressing these issues prior to leaving the factory. It's significantly more costly to fix quality problems in the field, all that factory automation can't be used at the service centers. Then also even having to contend with returned vehicles by unsatisfied customers.

natch6• 6 years ago

Actually speaking with actual owners I hear that Model Y build quality is great.

With Tesla more so than with other companies, you have to take negative things you hear online with a large grain of salt, because there is an extraordinarily active group of short sellers of the stock who are highly motivated to spread negative rumors online in desperate attempts to lower the stock price. Model Y build quality issues are one such rumor.

Model 3 did have some issues early in the production cycle but they have learned a lot and tightened it up, and Model Y benefits from those learnings, though the rumor is still easy to spread due to its resonance with the earlier, but also exaggerated, Model 3 issues.

samfisher83• 6 years ago

I think a lot short sellers have been wiped out at this point.

new_realist2• 6 years ago

https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/25/21302804/tesla-ranks-last...

new_realist2• 6 years ago

There is just as much short interest in Apple as Tesla; where is the fake news regarding their product quality? You being played like a violin.

blinkingled3• 6 years ago

Umm I live in an neighborhood where few apartment complexes have car charging stations and one of my pastimes is observing build quality of Teslas (and sometimes Leaf or some other ones) - I have not yet found a Model 3 without uneven panel gaps - some are acceptable if you don't compare them to another mainstream car but still it's not what one would expect from a $35K car.

xvf22• 6 years ago

Coworker refused delivery of his twice for seat attachment problems and pretty obvious dings.

brianwawok2• 6 years ago

Picked up my Y two weeks ago. Build quality overall was great. One cosmetic nit that I had fixed under warranty.

This is a Life changing car. Put 1100 miles on it already and no plan to stop.

I cannot see anyone in my house buying a non-Tesla car ever again.

It was like going from a Blackbery to an iPhone times 100.

kasey_junk• 6 years ago

I did a Chicago <—> central mi camping trip this weekend.

How do you a) handle charging in that case (given 120 RV hookups) and b) haulage?

riantogo• 6 years ago

After 10 yrs of BMW I moved to Model 3 and love it. It truly feels like the future. Most of my driving is on autopilot. Love the acceleration, the big touch screen, the updates, everything.

However, the little noises makes it feel like a cheap build. Been multiple times to the shop to fix the squeaky seats, steering. Now the steering has started making some creaking sounds. The only solution is to drive with music turned up.

mrmonkeyman• 6 years ago

That's because it _is_ a cheap build. Enjoy.

blinkingled3• 6 years ago

I have no problem with you putting up with those issues - but the last time I bought a Toyota Sienna for $40K new and it had very minor rattling problem which took only a day for the dealer to fix - I was very upset. For that reason alone I am not buying a Tesla. My mass manufactured CR-V has zero build issues and it was for me a very good experience for the kind of money I paid. It boggles my mind that Tesla hasn't been able to solve these issues for years.

I am curious if people would have lived with so many build issues if it was any other car - people buying traditional cars seem to expect much more.

cptskippy• 6 years ago

Every car I have ever been in has had creaks, vibration noise or weird resonation. I usually spend the first 10 minutes in an unfamiliar car touching surfaces to identify the source of cabin noises. My partner thinks I am crazy, I am.

I currently have a Leaf and Model 3, neither has any unusual noise but the lack of engine noise makes everything more noticeable.

SheinhardtWigCo2• 6 years ago

This seems to be the Tesla ownership tradeoff: you can live on the bleeding edge of driving experiences available today, if you’re willing to tolerate bad build quality and a service experience that makes Comcast look good.

jml78• 6 years ago

Well service depends on where you live. I live three hours from a service center. The mobile tech for my area is amazing. He is honest and busts his ass to make things right for customers.

But yes some people have had some terrible service experiences. But mine have been better than any dealership for any car I have ever owned

WalterBright• 6 years ago

I've had good service from Comcast (though their prices are really high).

cortesoft• 6 years ago

I have not noticed any build quality issues with my Model X

lwhalen2• 6 years ago

Is there a way to disable all the Tesla telemetry, even if it means reduced functionality? I'd love a Model X, but I refuse to own a car that tracks my location and reports it back to the mothership. I'm so serious about this, I've disabled my BMW cell subscription (and cut the cable to the cell modem).

PaulWaldman2• 6 years ago

Agreed, but what about bug fixes? I also wonder if it would impact the warranty. Would they argue issues can be identified prior to equipment failure?

NotSammyHagar• 6 years ago

You can opt out. They give the usual unspecified things may not work right. I've read about people doing this. You lose updated maps, and they actually have a ton of great things they've added since it started. Some people always connect to wifi hotspot from their phones when driving around.

If you opt out of the data collection, I don't know if the 3g modem will still be active. There are people who have turned it off. The tesla is one car that actually has a ton of useful software apps (even though they never realized the promise of their own app store, they have useful things).

I love the homemade mapping and traffic site that combines maps, weather, waze updates and many other things at https://teslawaze.azurewebsites.net/.

coronadisaster• 6 years ago

All cars nowadays appears to have this[0] and I wish that a law would force manufacturers to provide instructions for disabling internet connectivity and all telemetry or meta data collection.

0. https://www.businessinsider.com/ford-exec-gps-2014-1 (comment from 2014)

lwhalen2• 6 years ago

BMW dealership did it for me after I signed a standard form that, yes, this is what I wanted. A friendly chat with the master mechanic gave me the rough location of the cell box (easy to get to in a convertible) and a 'wink wink nudge nudge' understanding that, while cutting that cable is absolutely not recommended, the car wouldn't spontaneously explode if it somehow became accidentally disconnected.

remote_phone2• 6 years ago

If you get into an accident and need repairs, be prepared to wait months. My wife damaged the rim on the bottom of the ca near the front door, and the entire car had to be disassembled. I saw pictures and it was crazy how much had to be taken to get to the one small panel at the bottom of the car. Even the back and front seats had to be removed. And then it cost $13,000. Luckily it was covered by insurance but it’s still a ridiculous amount.

Tesla’s are good, not great. They are fun to drive and not having to fill up is great but if you have any problems expect a lot of pain.

rasz• 6 years ago

Dont you mean drive months in an insurance covered loaner?

remote_phone2• 6 years ago

Insurance usually covers a rental car for 30 days.

Tesla drops Model Y price by $3k

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