Red Hat to remove contentious terms like 'master' and 'slave' from its source

https://techxplore.com/news/2020-06-red-hat-contentious-terms-master.html

by mgamache • 6 years ago

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Possibly unpopular comment:

I think that master/slave correctly describes the relationship between constructs, and should remain unchanged. It is adequately separated from any sort of human relationship, and doesn't in any way glorify human slavery; in fact it actively separates the machine relationships from human ones. We can look at the relationships between these constructs, and see how far removed it is from any relationship in modern society.

weare1382• 6 years ago

I think that master/slave correctly describes the relationship between constructs

But it's not the only way to describe it. There are other ways to describe it without using contentious terms.

sinker2• 6 years ago

The terms have racial undertones which are more pronounced than they ought to be due to the current political environment.

The master/slave term is an accurate metaphor for the technology, and we can infer that no racial discrimination is intended by its usage.

We have to assume people who are performing intelligent work are capable of nuance and discretion.

And for people working on serious problems in science and technology, in order for them to progress effectively, they need to be insulated from silly little identity politics intrusions like this.

6gvONxR4sf7o• 6 years ago

Even if it correctly describes the relationship between constructs, that doesn't necessarily mean it should remain unchanged. And it's not really separated from human relationships. If the human relationship we call master/slave had been called foo/bar, we'd call the machine relationship foo/bar. They're intimately linked concepts.

Personally, the terms neither benefit me nor hurt me, so I just defer to people with strong feelings. If it hurts them, fine call it something else.

sinker2• 6 years ago

This is a bad precedent. We are seeing companies pre-emptively capitulate to social media outrage from spheres completely outside their own domain.

This is not an act from humanist principles. This is just addressing surface level, visible things that are in no way racist or offensive - until a political environment coerces you to believe it is.

Unfortunately, capitulation is good for business.

But in the long-term this will be incredibly damaging to the principles of free speech, open discourse, science, and the advancement of technology.

In what way is it good for tech companies, research institutes, academic institutions to bend to the forceful compliance of mid-20s liberal arts students who have yet to undertake any real responsibility in society, who have yet to enter into any domain of societal consequence?

Red Hat to remove contentious terms like 'master' and 'slave' from its source

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