Some thoughts on Emacs and Vim

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by codeup • 15 years ago

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d0mine• 15 years ago

It’s a scripting language but it doesn’t even have case/switch statements. </quote>

The same could be said about Python.

silentbicycle4• 15 years ago

They're included in dictionary usage. Having a separate case statement would be redundant. Lua does the same thing.

samvelst• 15 years ago

"Vim’s Normal mode lets me fly around a document"

Isn't this just because he is more experienced in Vim? I'm not an expert in any case, but is it really true that Vim is that much faster (editing-wise) than Emacs?

I'm guessing that everyone's editor of choice would be the one they're most comfortable in. In other words, the one in which they've invested the most time into learning.

keeptrying3• 15 years ago

I use emacs for everything except to quickly jump around a file and edit it. Vim is super fast for this.

Emacs will also help you when your in weird situation because it is so powerful. One very simple example: we had some new machines installed recently but they didn't have our home directories nfs-ed onto them because the San was in a different network. With e-shell In emacs I could copy over my files without even opening a window to my home directories because emacs's tramp mode is built into the shell. It meant that I had autocomplete in my shell while working on a remote machine. Guys were ftping files clumsily over while I just had to use "cp" and the tab key.

gnosis2• 15 years ago

Two other alternatives to emacs in this situation are sshfs, and mc's (midnight commander's) fish protocol.

dilap6• 15 years ago

I dunno, I'm a longtime emacs user/addict, and I get the feeling that its actual editing commands just aren't that well thought out -- because of this, I've flirted with trying to use vim and vimpulse (an emacs vim emulator), but it's super-hard to get away from emacs once you're used to it...

I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has moved from emacs to vim. (Or thoughts of people who've gone the other way.)

copper2• 15 years ago

I dunno, I tend to prefer the emacs movement keys over vim. I-search to move around in emacs, in combination with C+A+f/b is (usually) fairly fast - though a fairly good reason for that might be because I know the structure of what I edit. As for someone who moved from emacs to vim, I cannot resist posting this particular link :)

http://notinventedhe.re/on/2010-12-22

jodrellblank• 15 years ago

and I get the feeling that its actual editing commands just aren't that well thought out

If only it had some way you could customize it, eh? ;)

slysf• 15 years ago

Having to support what I write in production situations let me to choose vim over emacs long ago. The biggest con about emacs that's not mentioned is that it's just not _everywhere_. Even if I have to log into a firewall to make some emergency change, odds are even that has vi installed. When you start looking at doing embedded work this is even more of an issue. It's hard to rapidly iterate on a prototype when you have to make a change in your sandbox in order to use your editor of choice. YMMV of course.

bradtgmurray• 15 years ago

On a somewhat related note, are there any tutorials out there for a guide to emacs and org-mode for vim users?

gaiusparx• 15 years ago

Why I choose Emacs http://eatingair.com/post/2829859704/why-i-choose-emacs-over...

delackner• 15 years ago

This article lead to me reading about vim's undo branches feature, something that I had really wanted for a long time but just didn't notice existed. Thanks!

http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/undo.html#undo-branche...

Some thoughts on Emacs and Vim

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