AMD’s 7nm Ryzen 4000 CPUs are here to take on Intel’s 10nm Ice Lake laptop chips

https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/6/21054007/amd-7nm-ryzen-4000-cpu-ces-2020-intel-competition-laptop-processors-zen-2

by pizzabearman • 7 years ago

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PHGamer• 7 years ago

the thing is those 4000 cpus are really 3000 ones. intels laptops are always 1 gen ahead. amds laptop is always one gen behind. its kinda annoying. granted zen 2 (or 3000) was a good architecture so it should compete nicely but I would expect intel to actually be more efficient still because its newer.

lhoff4• 7 years ago

Yes, that naming scheme annoys me as well.

arcticbull2• 7 years ago

The core architecture is totally irrelevant. They took the previous generation core, improved the process, made various tweaks, ran it at a different clock speed and within a different thermal and TDP envelope, and everything else that entails. Laptops have different requirements that need to be considered. Taking a mature part they understand well gives them room and understanding to make necessary tweaks.

The reality is those changes take time, it's not like they took a Ryzen 3700X, dropped it onto a smaller package and called it a day. If that were the case I'd imagine they'd have released it alongside...

lhoff4• 7 years ago

Sure, they still should have called it the Ryzen 3000.

The mistake was made during the Ryzen 1000. they called the APUs (CPU with graphics) Ryzen but the CPU cores were not even Zen.

I know that it takes more then putting another name on to create these CPUs. But since they have the same Architecture they should be in the same generation.

Intel's 10th Gen naming annoys me as well. 10nm and 14nm CPUs all under the same naming scheme. The only reason to do this is to confuse uninformed customers.

tracker13• 7 years ago

The terms and tech do get muddied... that said, these are 3-5 year processes to get a new line released.

The 4000 series g and u cpu's should do quite well against current Intel options though.

prike• 7 years ago

as i see, amd will still be more efficient in practice.

wmf• 7 years ago

And Intel's 10000 series are really 6000.

tracker13• 7 years ago

Already tweeted the following comment...

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@TheVerge

@cgartenberg I think you are muddling some things... There are Ryzen processors in the 2000, 3000, and 4000 series that use the tech from the prior generation.

The 3200g for example, is a Zen+ (12nm) processor in the 3000 series...

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There are also Zen2 processors in the 3000 series. The processors you are referring to are Zen2 (7nm) processors that are in the 4000 series, that will land ahead of Zen3 (7nm+) later in the year... the article doesn't clearly explain this.

Matt3o12_• 7 years ago

Mobile processors are always one generation behind. Mobile Ryzen 2000 was Zen, mobile ryzen 3000 was Zen+ and mobile ryzen 4000 will be Zen 2 (while Desktop ryzen 4000 will be Zen 3).

The reason for this is that it takes more engendering effort to always add the igpu to the platform.

tracker13• 7 years ago

I understand the why... Of course releasing what is a 4000 series as say a 3250X and aligning them, then releasing the number with tech would help... in any case, the point is the article muddles the details and makes it sound like these new 4000 series are better than the existing higher end 3000 series, and may mislead readers who don't know the difference.

meesterdude• 7 years ago

Wow, they released a processor with 64 cores?! that's crazy. AMD is crushing it!

makomk2• 7 years ago

AMD released a 64-core server processor a while ago. Today they released the high-end desktop version of it.

llampx• 7 years ago

With laptops, OEM deals matter a lot more than with desktop CPU's. Here's to hoping that OEMs don't gimp their Ryzen models with worse screens, smaller batteries and slower, single-channel Ram as they are wont to do.

I'm excite for my next laptop to have a Ryzen, depending on benchmarks of course.

Nokinside• 7 years ago

AMD's market share 2019

    Desktop   ~ 20%   
    Notebook  ~ 15% 
    Server    ~  4%

OEM's still have to by Intel chips if they want to sell large volumes.

AMD/TSMC just can't make enough CPU's to take over Intel in CPU market share even if they win every deal.

xbmcuser• 7 years ago

All asus main laptops are coming with amd processors. I expect as more oems reveal their lineups in ces amd will feature in many of them

AMD’s 7nm Ryzen 4000 CPUs are here to take on Intel’s 10nm Ice Lake laptop chips

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