Palo Alto to NYC...No Pit Stops

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by jordancooper • 15 years ago

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geuis2• 15 years ago

Really, can people stop with the poetic job offers? I'm a human being, not a rockstar, a ninja, a monkey, or apparently Poe.

If you have a job opening, just state it. Say that it's in NYC and you are looking for someone from the Bay area. Post some requirements and you might get some more interested parties.

Unless you really are just looking for an emo engineer.

jordancooper3• 15 years ago

really...it's a filter...meant to weed out people like you and surface people who we actually want to work with. go work at IBM

avree• 15 years ago

Wow, I definitely wouldn't want to work for you after a statement like that.

The poetic job offer thing can be done well, but you have to actually write well for it to be appealing.. For example, you repeat "right now" twice within the first three sentences. You use the wrong "your/you're", you say "your are", and you throw commas about willy-nilly. That doesn't convey a laid-back air or a cool company culture - that conveys sloppiness and general laziness.

For reference, a good combination of poetry and information is Rapportive's hiring page : http://rapportive.com/jobs

It is designed well, makes the service, company culture, and idea clear, and then clearly states what the responsibilities and roles are. If I'm thinking about a job, or looking at a job posting, I want some information - your post gives none of that.

Udo• 15 years ago

Many consider it a big warning sign if a job description contains the word "leverage" or any such marketing speak. And unfounded hyperbole like "When you move here, you will be in the top 2% of engineers in New York City." doesn't instill much confidence either.

I believe the reason for this lies in the sad fact that as software developers we have all met a lot of business and marketing people who talk like that, and speaking from personal experiences none of them were trustworthy. As an engineer I don't want my managers to be cheerleaders; for many reasons, not the least of which is they tend to turn into megalomaniac taskmasters who exhibit a glaring disconnect from reality.

When you write stuff like "really...it's a filter...meant to weed out people like you and surface people who we actually want to work with. go work at IBM", you're essentially confirming these suspicions.

Now, Jordan, I didn't write this to diss you, I wanted to convey an explanation where negative feedback may be coming from. As a developer I would like to be impressed by ideas, not by enthusiastic type A personalities who are quick to lash out against others.

geuis2• 15 years ago

Why thanks Jordan! You've just now confirmed that I, and probably many other developers, would actually never want to work for you. Thanks for lashing out!

kbob• 15 years ago

"For me, traveling to New York City was like an immigrant going back to visit the old country. People there live in a dirty, dangerous environment, bound to the land by some misplaced sense of heritage or tradition, unaware that the key to a better life is simply to get the hell out of town."

-- Jerry Kaplan Startup ISBN 0-14-025731-4

Palo Alto to NYC...No Pit Stops

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