Ma.gnolia shut down two months too soon (old delicious competitor)

http://gnolia.com/

by jaxn • 16 years ago

58 33 16 years ago

gnolia.com

andrewljohnson• 16 years ago

Hello, hackers, look at your bookmarking service, now back to me, now back at your bookmarks, now back to me.

Sadly, your bookmarking service is not me, but if he didn't keep shutting off his service, then he could be like me.

Look down, back up, where are you? You don't have any bookmarks.

idlewords• 16 years ago

I love you

messel• 16 years ago

Expressions of emotions without context are frowned upon by the HN community. A grey metallic voice of iron reason backed by intricate developer knowledge is the idyllic comment. This is done to reduce comment noise, but it is inhuman. I too thought this comment was enjoyable, but I cannot express this sentiment beyond an upvote without risking the wrath of communal punishment.

bl4k• 16 years ago

I must be one of the only people who doesn't get these references, and doesn't care.

sudont4• 16 years ago

It's in reference to a commercial that was particularly well done, especially in scene changes without jump cuts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE

What's really amazing is the once-in-a-blue moon of (admittedly, excellent) satire reaching the top of the post rankings.

noodle• 16 years ago

honestly, i never quite saw the appeal of bookmarking services. most of them, at least. i tried a few, all too much hassle.

code_duck• 16 years ago

I've never used one for anything. I think part of the appeal was that it worked something like Digg or Reddit - the social aspect.

Without the appeal of seeing what other people have bookmarked, it would work just as well to maintain my own list on an HTTP server. Then I can access it from anywhere just the same.

bmelton• 16 years ago

Before native bookmark sync, it was my way of ensuring I knew how to get to all the same places on multiple computers.

Also, the 'suggested tags' feature worked really well most of the time, which was awesome, because I otherwise would have never taken the time to tag my bookmarks.

sudont4• 16 years ago

This is one of my biggest fears of cloud computing.

With abandonware, you can still run it locally, years after the death of the company that produced it. Not so with a thin client or SaaS.

EDIT: This isn't about exporting data, I actually like certain software tools, and would miss them if I no longer had access to an install.

jdludlow2• 16 years ago

Choose services that clearly and easily allow you to export all of your data whenever you want. delicious makes export trivial, so there's not much lock-in. Look at how many competitors already support importing delicious files.

kmfrk• 16 years ago

I don't know if there is much to fear; if the service doesn't have an export service, treat it like you expect to lose your data at some point, as you would your data stored on a hard drive with no backup copy. Any hacker with his salt can not be blind-sided by losing all his data to a service, because it didn't let him export the data safely.

Of course, sometimes you reach a grey area where some parts are exportable, but not others. Take Bloglines, the RSS reader, which allowed me to export my subscriptions as XML/OPML, but didn't save my starred entries. Of course, you could argue that this wasn't their fault, seeing as there probably wasn't any standard to support the export. Nevertheless, it turned out to be something that would bite me in the ass, when Bloglines (initially) went belly up.

I think we've reach a point long ago where we found out that there's a tangible chance of losing our data stored in the cloud. This is not a new "cause for alarm" or anything of the sort. We're basically at "fool me thrice" at this point.

sudont4• 16 years ago

What about losing the tool itself, never mind the data?

joe_the_user• 16 years ago

The only solution is using cloud-sites which open their source and so allow instant duplication.

vyrotek• 16 years ago

Honestly, up-voting articles on HN is my bookmarking service. My work bookmarks stay on my work computer and my home ones stay at home. HN posts are really the only thing I reference from both places sometimes.

jaxn• 16 years ago

I just learned the other day that we can see the posts we upvoted via our profile.

pmjordan2• 16 years ago

My HN "saved" list is about 6000 items long at this stage, which makes it somewhat unwieldy. Are there any 3rd party tools/services for scraping it and allowing searches?

omaranto• 16 years ago

I have to say that the upvote list does cover almost all the stuff in the overlap between my interests and the HN collective interest. But surely everyone is interested in something else not covered by HN.

KevBurnsJr2• 16 years ago

What is the meaning of this post title? 2 months too soon? I don't get it.

Raphael• 16 years ago

I suppose the author was implying that if Gnolia had held on until the announcement of Delicious's closure, that would have given it a push to keep going, take on some refugees.

KevBurnsJr2• 16 years ago

Oh thanks, I get it now.

ffffruit• 16 years ago

People have also recommended http://pinboard.in/ - Havent tried it myself.

1tw• 16 years ago

Except for the fact that no one in their right mind would use Magnolia after its first incarnation lost all user data, and didn't have any backups.

Ma.gnolia shut down two months too soon (old delicious competitor)

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