A working implementation of fully homomorphic encryption [pdf]

http://eurocrypt2010rump.cr.yp.to/9854ad3cab48983f7c2c5a2258e27717.pdf

by hadronzoo • 16 years ago

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Bootstrapping technique: http://eprint.iacr.org/2010/145.pdf

hadronzoo• 16 years ago

Bootstrapping technique: http://eprint.iacr.org/2010/145.pdf

davidj• 16 years ago

If I understand this right, this would mean now you could do all the calculations on your data on a cloud based solution without disclosing the data or results, a huge breakthrough for securing sensitive data on the cloud. Or another example, you could run a Google search and Google would return the results without knowing the results or what you initially searched for. This kind of reminds me of the tor network. On the other side, it would make it impossible to know if your cloud system was infected with spyware because you could never prove what it would be doing. But on the other hand, that could actually be a solution to a larger problem, which would solve the problem of pirated software by limiting crackers the ability to decipher the registration-code algorithm of a software product.

sweis• 16 years ago

This is a related paper on eprint: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1784602

trotsky• 16 years ago

What is Homomorphic Encryption, and Why Should I Care?

http://blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz/2010/03/18/38566/

Groxx2• 16 years ago

I was just going to link to this, but ya beat me to it!

It's an interesting article pair, but seems to have stopped rather abruptly for quite a while now...

zitterbewegung• 16 years ago

Bruce Schneier on homomorphic encryption

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/07/homomorphic_en...

Side note by me: If this is shown to be actually secure then this would be very interesting. Note he states that an efficient algorithm would take 40 years.

partition2• 16 years ago

I have a question about homomorphic encryption and information leakage.

Do I have this right: A homomorphic encryption is a function

    e :: P -> C

between groups (P, -) and (C, +), where P is the set of plaintext and C is the set of gibberish and -, + are the respective group operations in either space, such that e is a homomorphism in the group theoretic sense?

Because if so, the following basic properties must hold:

    e(id_P) === id_C
    e(inv(p)) === inv(e(p))

Suppose you are a malicious cloud services provider and you are manipulating encrypted data. Couldn't you use these group properties to make much more informed observations about the encrypted data without ever having to decrypt it?

A very simple example: as a malicious cloud services provider, if you see a bunch of gibberish strings x, y1, y2 ... yn, and it turns out that x + y1 == y1, x + y2 == y2, ... x + yn == yn, wouldn't you at least have a sneaking suspicion, that x is the identity element? And in the situation where you could potentially make very damaging (to the other party) decisions based on this information, it would seem to defeat the purpose of homomorphic encryption.

Moreover, recall that the cloud services provider is technically also allowed to run any additional set of calculations using the group operation on the data you give it, not just those you provided. It seems that, in general, even with very unstructured data you could use the properties of homomorphisms to de-anonymize data very easily.

How is this issue addressed?

Groxx2• 16 years ago

From what I remember from reading an ACM article on it a couple months back, you can also run the operations after they have been encrypted as well, preventing it a bit. I don't remember if there's a way to require encrypted operations, though.

In doing this, you could still brute-force operations and watch for statistically-significant results... but you'd have to guess at what valid operations are. Which amounts to the same problem as cracking the encryption in the first place, though it seems to me it would be an attack vector which weakens the encryption as a whole. To a significant degree? Don't know / doubt it.

Just don't ask me to explain the math of it. I don't know it, though I plan on studying enough to grasp it. Should take a few years.

edit: meh to the above.

Now that I've thought about it a bit longer, I do remember a decent chunk of the article dealing with information leakage, and how algorithms would need to be designed to touch as much information as possible (ideally, everything) to prevent leakage. So, it seems a map/reduce setup which combines all datapoints (removing unimportant ones further down the chain, thus hiding their influence) would be valuable.

partition2• 16 years ago

OK, I should check out the ACM article.

It definitely seems like one needs to pare down the interactions with the provider to some bare minimum. Limiting it to single, uncorrelated map-reduce (or even just reduce) steps seems like it would remove a lot of potential for abuse.

But who knows---if service providers tend to take in and operate on more data than clients (especially from multiple clients), it seems there is a fundamental information imbalance, and obfuscating techniques by clients can't possibly do as well as deanonymizing techniques by the provider in the long run.

I wonder if it is the case that fully homomorphic encryption might _increase_ the potential for such information leakage relative to a partial homomorphic encryption; the more algebraic structures for which an encryption function is a homomorphism the more vulnerable it is. If a fully homomorphic encryption captures the +, * operations of a ring, you can exploit two identity elements, one for * and one for +. The next step in 'badness' would then be something like R-modules, where in addition to the ring you have another group (and another operation and identity element).

djcapelis• 16 years ago

Does anyone know anything about the availability of this implementation? (Before anyone gets excited: For poking at, not production use, being able to use the thing would help me understand their paper better...)

A working implementation of fully homomorphic encryption [pdf]

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