Ask HN: How should i present my skill sets with my cv

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by thedangler • 16 years ago

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Recently when applying for jobs i've come across fill in the blank type resume submission.

In the CV part I've been providing my skill sets as a list. What is the best way to list the skills with out just slapping key words and listing languages.

I start the list with "proficient in" and "excellent in". Seems thats what everyone does, and I want to stand out.

Thanks

klync• 16 years ago

There are lots of things you can do - many of them depend on exactly who you are (ie. what jobs you're applying for as well as the experience you have), and some on the specific posting / submission engine you're facing.

Terms like "proficient" and "excellent" are usually not needed: you list your skills in order of your abilities - the most proficient are at the top / front of the list, so you can leave out those extraneous words.

Also, a lot of what you write will sound like standard tripe, but that's a good thing ... to an extent. You want to stand out from the crowd, but you also want to demonstrate that you understand the game being played here. In short, your resume should make it as easy as possible for the person reviewing it to match you to the job posting.

An example of where you should follow the same style as others is in using "action words". Don't say you are familiar with / proficient in project management, for example; say you have managed projects [of X size and scope]. Don't say you know Python; say you have contributed to an open source python project (and provide a link!).

Keywords are good. You can adapt / evolve your resume and cover letters based on the words and phrases you're seeing in postings. This is especially important when the target is not an employer, but a recruiter who might not even understand what a "J2EE Deployment Engineer" is, precisely. And how Weblogic is different than JBoss. So use their terminology - it shows you care. In times when I've been looking for work (or even just polishing off my resume for good measure), I start by gathering together a number (say, 20) of postings that sound like jobs I'd like - regardless of whether I'm actually qualified for them. I then look at the phrases and skills they're asking for; which ones are most common, etc.; and start creating a list. I will then review that list, refining it as I contemplate my own skills and experience, and then building up the terminology I'm going to use to describe myself.

Master these things, and then you can start working on how to stand out. I'm going to cut my comment off here for the moment, but here's one more thought: when listing past experience and when writing cover letters, an example can say a thousand things that will expand out your bullet points. As an example, say you're applying for an intermediate programmer job - they're asking for someone who knows php, and is a "front end rockstar" and works well under pressure, blah blah. You start off by saying "I've been building php websites for 5 years." (or whatever) And then you give an example "At my last employer, we were under extreme pressure to deliver a custom solution for a fortune 500 company. After helping our team derive a scalable architecture based on my DAL model, I was given sole responsibility for implementing the UI by building on the originally approved comps." With two sentences like that, you can show that you know your php, that you can handle the deadlines; that you know your way around the back end as well as the front, etc. And, again, provide a link!

HTH ... if you have any other specific points, I'd be happy to give you my $0.02.

thedangler• 16 years ago

Thank you very much. I'm going to revise my resume. You've been more then helpful.

Ask HN: How should i present my skill sets with my cv

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