Ask HN: Employment contracts in Germany

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by job-seeker • 8 years ago

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I have been offered a job in Berlin by a reputed online market firm. They are asking me to sign a contract before joining. I don’t have a contract in hand yet as I haven’t accepted the offer. Is this normal procedure?

Would I be able ditch this and join another company before actually starting this job?

DocTomoe• 8 years ago

I am not a lawyer, but I do hiring in Germany.

Is this normal procedure?

Yes, this is normal. You get the job offer, you agree, then you go and sign the contract.

Would I be able ditch this and join another company before actually starting this job?

For up to six months after your first day of actual work (specifics are noted down in the contract), you are in "Probezeit", a probation period in which either your employer or you can end the contract within two calendar weeks with no reasons given. This reflects badly in your CV, though.

You cannot sign and then not show up, though, without them being able to claim damages (usually the cost associated with finding a replacement for you).

job-seeker2• 8 years ago

Thanks for your answer.

anoncoward111• 8 years ago

Wow, interesting. Most places in US are "at will" meaning you can quit or be fired anytime, even before day one.

maxhallinan• 8 years ago

To add to this, be aware that once the probation period is over, you have to give 3 months notice when you terminate your employment. Once you actually have a job in Germany, finding a new job is a much bigger piece of long-term planning than the U.S.

job-seeker2• 8 years ago

Yes. 3-month is a big period. Most employers wouldn’t want to wait that long in other countries.

Ask HN: Employment contracts in Germany

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