Xinjiang - A Surveillance State Unlike Any the World Has Ever Seen

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/china-s-xinjiang-province-a-surveillance-state-unlike-any-the-world-has-ever-seen-a-1220174.html

by d0ne • 8 years ago

91 25 8 years ago

spiegel.de

justicezyx• 8 years ago

""" The Uighurs see themselves as a minority facing cultural, religious and economic discrimination. When Xinjiang was incorporated into the People's Republic of China in 1949, they comprised roughly 80 percent of the region's population. Controlled migration to Xinjiang of Han Chinese has reduced this share to 45 percent, and it is mainly these migrants who benefit from the economic boom in the region, which has plentiful supplies of oil, gas and coal. """

This is the key problem for political instability. China is having the inequality problem worse than any other countries....

gonmf• 8 years ago

China is also populous and oppressive enough that they can outlast the Uighurs in the long run, so there is little hope on this matter.

techVentureStar2• 8 years ago

Yeah China should evaporate anytime, since 1949. Wonder when it will actually happen. Inequality happens everywhere even in America. For instance trump vs his supporters.

bbstevecou• 8 years ago

The Chinese dictatorship is literally setting up concentration camps in Xinjiang.

"Zenz’s research demonstrates that such facilities are not only of significant size, with some exceeding 10,000 square metres, but also are akin to concentration camps: Many bids mandate the installation of comprehensive security features that turn existing facilities into prison-like compounds: surrounding walls, security fences, pull wire mesh, barbwire, reinforced security doors and windows, surveillance systems, secure access systems, watchtowers, and guard rooms or facilities for armed police."

https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/xinjiangs-tran...

It's pretty disgusting how another previous thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17645273 has people wanting 'new leadership from China' to lead the world

lainga• 8 years ago

There were plenty of Oxford and Cambridge students in the 30's and 40's who were all up and hot for the USSR. I think there's a common thread between these two phenomena.

glitchc• 8 years ago

"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them."

-George Orwell

gok• 8 years ago

Successful soft power is setting up concentration camps for Muslims and not having any Islamic governments say anything about it. [1]

[1] https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/07/24/islamic-leaders-have-no...

yumraj• 8 years ago

Exactly. China's closest, for whatever reason, ally is Pakistan - a Muslim nation, which barely makes a sound when it comes to such Chinese policies.

volkisch• 8 years ago

It's pretty disgusting how another previous thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17645273 has people wanting 'new leadership from China' to lead the world.

That's either CPC bots, or californians who drank too much from the GLP[0] kool-aid.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward

Leary• 8 years ago

Does anyone have any footage of what these camps are like? I think having them shown graphically would help the Uighur's cause.

DownVoteFuckers• 8 years ago

This kind of reply shows how ignorant and retarded you are about Xinjiang and the history of concentration camps. Uighurs have been attacking innocent Han people for years. There has been a series riots against innocent civilians. These are the terrorist attacks on the innocent Han civilians. The US has been labeling muslim attackers terrorists for many years. Criticizing China for protecting its own innocent civilians from attacks shows exactly the double standards. When there is an attack in the US by muslim attackers, it is called terrorist attack. When China protects its innocent civilians, it is called "concentration camp", while you have a President in the While House labeling Mexicans drug dealers, criminals, and rapists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_2009_%C3%9Cr%C3%BCmqi_rio...

dang• 8 years ago

We've banned this account for violating the site guidelines. You can't attack others this way on HN regardless of how strongly you feel about an issue.

Abusing the site this way will eventually get your main account banned as well, so please don't.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

justsomedude43• 8 years ago

So pretty much the same as American prisons then?

amaccuish4• 8 years ago

Do we need an article every few days on Xinjiang? These articles reveal nothing new.

rambojazz• 8 years ago

well it's a first for me. Perhaps for other people too.

amaccuish4• 8 years ago

fair enough :) just there seems to be one every other day, bit excessive imho

posting2fast• 8 years ago

https://exhibitions.ushmm.org/americans-and-the-holocaust/ma...

American diplomats in Germany were well aware of the Nazi persecution of Jews and political opponents. Yet the US government respected Germany’s right to govern its own citizens and was hesitant to aid those being targeted.
Throughout spring 1933, tens of thousands of Americans signed petitions protesting the Nazis’ treatment of Jews. Hundreds of petitions were sent to the State Department, but the US government made no official statement against the German regime.

zwaps• 8 years ago

This is a good thing to complain about when there are literal concentration camps and there's a government who actively tries to suppress the spread of information on it in the whole world. Yeah, better decrease the amount of articles on the matter.

Man I hope you don't hate yourself too bad when you look back and think "well what was my reaction to this, ah yes, I was annoyed by the reports"

amaccuish4• 8 years ago

Ye I won't thanks :)

singularity2001• 8 years ago

Needless to say that every knife sold has a bar code associated with your file. So when you slay your friendly neighbor they know it was you.

Xinjiang - A Surveillance State Unlike Any the World Has Ever Seen

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