NixOS on Prgmr and Failing to Learn Nix

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by luu • 8 years ago

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agumonkey3• 8 years ago

author got a bit backward, nix came first, I wonder if he would still have desire to try guixsd ..

Harkins2• 8 years ago

(author here)

I knew Nix came before NixOS but was interested in both for the possibility of managing servers. I'd have made significantly less progress starting from Nix.

I can see how Guile would be an improvement over the Nix language, but have tapped out my patience on related topics for a while.

agumonkey3• 8 years ago

Hi,

I hope you took no offense by my comment. I tried nixos and failed to get what I want from it then went back to archlinux. But I understand how it's full of ambiguity (that's why I got back into familiar territory)

Maybe I'll make an article about guixsd and you'll read:p

nerdponx• 8 years ago

Surprisingly, the included 1.25 GB of RAM was not enough to run some nix commands.

Does Guix run in a "low memory" (scare/sarcasm quotes because 1.25 GB is still a non-trivial amount of memory) environment like this?

agumonkey3• 8 years ago

I'm not sure but I think. Usually vbox vms are 1G by default and I remember trying guixsd without memory errors but I didn't go far.

dbwest• 8 years ago

How long did you spend trying to learn Nix? I am trying to learn Nix as well because when I see it working it looks very clear and organized.

NixOS seems like it is from the future in my opinion. I agree the docs are outdated a bit. I had to go on IRC to #nixos to find out nix-shell is now nix shell. I submitted a pull request to the Nix Pills for that.

vaibhavsagar• 8 years ago

The command is still `nix-shell`, `nix shell` is the next-generation replacement but unfortunately it's still not at feature parity with the old command.

Harkins2• 8 years ago

This was probably ~20 hours over two weeks. (I'm the author of the post.)

king_nothing• 8 years ago

Prgmr is still around? They seemed like they went tits up.

vertex-four• 8 years ago

I use NixOS on a day to day basis, and have encouraged others to do so - and I completely agree with the documentation issues described here. I’ll also note that using Nixpkgs/NixOS will practically require you to actively maintain at least some portion of Nixpkgs to keep it up to date and functional for your specific use case. I think that’s where a lot of the configuration mess comes from - NixOS modules have tended to be created to meet a specific user’s need, rather than meet some holistic design goal.

NixOS on Prgmr and Failing to Learn Nix

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