He Spoke Out Against Somalia’s Terrorist Groups. Now ICE Has Deported Him There

https://theintercept.com/2018/03/31/ice-detention-immigration-somalia-refugee/

by domevent • 8 years ago

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dahdum2• 8 years ago

Certainly the conditions sound horrible and should be addressed. They glossed over his convictions, so I searched and found the article below. I can see why ICE targeted him.

ROCHESTER, MN -- A Rochester man was arrested for selling drugs to an undercover officer. Police arrested 20 year-old Guled Muhumed of southeast Rochester during an ongoing narcotics investigation. Muhumed sold or possessed 11 grams of crack cocaine, or around a thousand dollars in street value, at the time of the arrest. Police say Muhumed was pulled over during a traffic stop soon after selling the drugs but as the officer walked up to the car he drove off striking another car at The Villages of Essex Park Apartments. But that didn't stop Muhumed who then fled on foot. After a short chase police were able to arrest him. He faces multiple charges including fleeing an officer and drug sales.

http://www.kttc.com/story/8294086/drug-bust-leads-to-police-...

a_t483• 8 years ago

He went to prison for it already and has kept clean for years afterwards. Do you think he deserves his deportation still?

bcherny2• 8 years ago

It’s certainly a statement about our society that we talk about who “deserves” and doesn’t deserve to be deported (not just you, but others and even NPR use that choice of words). As if being deported is a punishment - like prison - for those of us that we can get away with applying it to.

dahdum2• 8 years ago

He was ordered deported 8 years ago, but was allowed to stay temporarily. I think the case for him to stay should be heard by a judge who could overrule that order, according to the law.

mieseratte2• 8 years ago

Yes. We have standards. Accepting a willingness to commit crime goes beyond those standards.

notafxn• 8 years ago

Is he a citizen? If he is not, why should he not be deported?

remarkEon2• 8 years ago

Absolutely.

One of my close friends is a cop in Rochester, MN. The drug problem in that city is becoming increasingly worse. Sorry, I don't have sympathy for people who take advantage of the compassion found in Western societies.

noopps• 8 years ago

"He signed his own removal papers and was ordered to be deported to Somalia on June 15, 2010."

He agreed to be deported at the time, he just didn't understand the consequences.

portofcall• 8 years ago

Street level sales of crack shouldn’t lead to deportation to a notorious war zone. He paid his debt to society anyway, this is essentially adding a death sentence on top of it.

mieseratte2• 8 years ago

I have to ask, since this is HN and I presume the typical member has no experience, do you know the damage that crack, or even plain powder cocaine can do to a person? Have you truly witnessed that devastation first hand?

I have. I have no sympathy for someone who chooses to peddle drugs. One can speak about the difference in crack and powder cocaine sentencing, fair. Still, these are not marijuana. They can and will destroy lives.

That this man made it to America and chose to engage in crime says much of his character and willingness to watch humans slip into the abyss.

saas_co_de• 8 years ago

It is strange to tell this long compelling story and then half way through go, "oh, and btw, he has multiple convictions for drug dealing."

While I personally would like to see all drugs legalized that does not change the fact that there are laws.

The idea that the law should be suspended for anyone who has a compelling story that can get media attention and win popular appeal is freaking insane.

If you go down that road you go from a corrupt legal system to having no rule of law at all where the legal system simply punishes people arbitrarily based on how popular and appealing they are.

TomMckenny• 8 years ago

Note that he was not picked up by ICE after a wild police chase involving drugs, he was pickup up while driving his daughter to day care. The events in the link are from 2008 when he was a teenager. Since then he has apparently become a valued member of the community, is married to a US citizen and has US citizen children.

And he has been in the country since he was nine years old and lacks citizenship because papers filed out for his relative were not filed out for him.

burfog• 8 years ago

I expect he'll do quite well.

First of all, he's going to a place where record keeping for identity is really lax. He can be anybody he wants to be. He can trivially claim to have a different name.

Second of all, he has a valuable skill: fluent English.

jeffdavis• 8 years ago

What's missing from all of these human interest immigration stories is: what should the law be?

If there are any conditions at all it will seem "unfair" compared with citizens. So we either have no laws at all, and make everyone a citizen who wants to be, or we do some "unfair" things sometimes.

He Spoke Out Against Somalia’s Terrorist Groups. Now ICE Has Deported Him There

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