Leaked email shows how Cambridge Analytica and Facebook first responded in 2015

http://www.businessinsider.com/emails-facebook-cambridge-analytica-response-data-scandal-2018-3

by node-bayarea • 8 years ago

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venning• 8 years ago

I believe the "(2015)" label is intended for articles from 2015. This article is from 2018, but its contents reference 2015. Perhaps a better title would be "Leaked email shows how Cambridge Analytica and Facebook first responded in 2015".

sctb• 8 years ago

Thanks! We've updated the title.

Bukhmanizer• 8 years ago

What are the rules on whos private data we're allowed to steal and whos we aren't?

5_minutes• 8 years ago

I really do think the momentum has become of Facebook’s demise.

Another side effect is that any other tech company (like Twitter) might close down their APIs etc even more.

One basic problem which I don’t understand from Facebook which could’ve prevented most of all this is: why aren’t the default settings of an account more secure and private?

dboreham• 8 years ago

In reality this is probably a buying opportunity. Regular people don't care much whether their minds are being manipulated.

madeofpalk• 8 years ago

I don't know... I used to think this, then I talked to 'regular' people (well, as 'regular' as people are that I meet). I know, I know, 'anecdata', but views I tend to get are either split between "Facebook is the worst, can't wait for it to get shut down" vs "It's creepy what all these companies do, but what can I do?".

collingreene• 8 years ago

I don’t understand ... why aren’t the default settings of an account more secure and private?

They are (for the most relevant definition of your question).

Specifically a Facebook app you choose to install can no longer see any of your friends information. That was done in 2014 before any of this happened, more details and timeline here: https://www.facebook.com/boz/posts/10104702799873151

andy_ppp• 8 years ago

The thing about AI enhanced propaganda is that it will learn exactly what to say to push your buttons and drive you further down a road away from reality towards something people want you to believe.

No one is impervious to this and I’ve seen many articles on both left and right that are completely false. We need to be very careful to do proper research on the likely correctness and fact checking of articles, images and even videos before they are shared, but you can go too far the other way if you try to automate this. Social media should probably warn you with algorithms if you share something likely to be false.

Bjartr2• 8 years ago

You know what I've never seen? An article that teaches how to do effective research like you suggest. Maybe that's what people who want a more reasoned and informed discussion should be pushing, the very resources that would help others become reasoned and informed.

baq2• 8 years ago

isn't this what you're supposed to be taught in high school or even elementary when writing essays?

throwaway5752• 8 years ago

What do you see on the left?

takeda• 8 years ago

Similar things, few minutes ago I saw post on reddit essentially saying that while students were protesting gun laws Trump was golfing and Pence posted on Twitter about a movie. This probably is true, but that post is essentially to push people's buttons.

baq2• 8 years ago

Articles appealing to emotions instead of reason.

OrganicMSG• 8 years ago

The thing about AI enhanced propaganda is that it will learn exactly what to say to push your buttons and drive you further down a road away from reality towards something people want you to believe.

Nonsense, is just the AI enhanced propaganda that is making you think that.

LifeLiverTransp• 8 years ago

News and the like, really needs some sort of habbit to handle them by now. Like i wont read anything that has not been around longer then 2 weeks and has been reposted by several vendors.

It also would help, if there was a App-Agent, checking the facts in a text.

atomi• 8 years ago

It shouldn't really matter so much if we all had a a baseline truth to rely on.

For example:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

waterhouse• 8 years ago

[AI enhanced propaganda] will learn exactly what to say to push your buttons ... No one is impervious to this

If this is true, then I wonder if one could repurpose the machinery towards making people resistant to such manipulation. Push people's buttons to make them think there's something wrong with bleu cheese, then follow up (perhaps at the end of the article, perhaps later) with a description of how their buttons were pushed and a listing of everything that was faked. The analogy would be vaccination.

If you get hoaxed once and learn that it was a hoax, that may not have much effect (see Gell-Mann amnesia). If it happens six times in a row, I suspect that will make you significantly less liable to believe things you read without question.

ethbro• 8 years ago

If you ask a liar if they lied... what do you do with the answer you receive?

irishcoffee• 8 years ago

Ok I'll bite: show me someone on this planet who isn't a liar. Now what?

asveikau• 8 years ago

An optimist I see.

I think there is something of a threshold for "liar", i.e. the implication is that it's habitual, or that the consequences are serious (sometimes, but not always both of those). And there is a huge variation in the trustworthiness or lie-frequency of individuals, that I think would be fairly consistent if you watch the same person over time, then compare them to others. A reasonable person has probably spotted high frequency liars at various points of daily life and made mental notes not to trust them, or the opposite for the opposite traits, and made these determinations correctly.

So I think the point is a little facetious.

forgotmypw2• 8 years ago

Is there any way to view the email without going to businessinsider?

techaddict009• 8 years ago

https://static-ssl.businessinsider.com/image/5ab2d675a042511...

Link to email snapshot.

forgotmypw2• 8 years ago

Thank you very much!

vinniejames• 8 years ago

Why is the media acting like this is a new revelation? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/11/senator-ted-...

Leaked email shows how Cambridge Analytica and Facebook first responded in 2015

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