What are your thoughts on using Clojure for more than 2 years?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Clojure/comments/6yb1ps/used_clojure_for_more_than_2_years_what_are_your/

by fernandohur • 9 years ago

46 11 9 years ago

enkiv2• 9 years ago

This being reddit, I expected the top voted post to be "I don't recommend using Clojure for more than 2 years, because going even a week without sleep is fatal." I was disappointed.

ronnier• 9 years ago

Personally, Given teams writing in java, python, go, or Clojure, I wouldn't join the Clojure team. It looks too painful...

https://github.com/clojurebook/ClojureProgramming/blob/maste...

Royalaid• 9 years ago

I don't honestly see anything out right incorrect or difficult about the code you posted other than it's clojure. Mind expanding on that?

kevmo3142• 9 years ago

The one roadblock I run into whenever I write functional is the ridiculous number of functions that result. Don't get me wrong, it's great that everything can be abstracted away and easily tested as pure functions, but a kitchen sink of thousands of functions is difficult to remember, let alone introduce someone else to. Namespaces help, but not everything fits into an obvious namespace.

Admittedly this is mostly a personal organization issue, but when writing object-oriented code, in my experience it encourages better encapsulation. That being said, I like functional more. :)

agumonkey• 9 years ago

Forget it, this module is "flawless".. relatively to a majority of module you can find in codebases. It's tiny, has less than 5 global vars, a few private functions and a few public ones. 100 LoC.

A few years ago I checked out the most used wordpress plugin for social network buttons, it was 4, if not 8 I lost track, pages of imperative loops over god knows how many mutable globals and 3 level deep adhoc dicts.

dyadic• 9 years ago

It's worth pointing out that this code snippet is over five years old and the Clojure style and community tools have evolved since then.

That said, if your objection is because it's a lisp and lisps are unfamiliar, then that still remains.

roboguy12• 9 years ago

I'm mildly comfortable with clojure, but haven't used it in a number of years. The code linked here looked pretty typical to me; could you possibly elaborate on the differences between this and some more modern clojure, or maybe a reputable link to a blog post outlining the ways the language has changed?

latte• 9 years ago

Can you please elaborate how doing a project in Python (I have less experience with Java and am not familiar with Go) is less 'painful' than doing it in Clojure?

Every time when I am trying to switch back from Clojure to Python, I expect to find a (maybe slightly more verbose) language with mature infrastructure, extensive documentation and tons of accumulated knowledge on StackOverflow and elsewhere. Every time, I find out that the dependency system is strange at best, there are still a lot of poorly documented libraries where the features I need have not yet made it into the release for several years.

What are your thoughts on using Clojure for more than 2 years?

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