Granary.pro – Beyond Bookmarks and Read-It-Later

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by wantaek_lim • 9 years ago

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anothercomment2• 9 years ago

Sorry from the homepage I don't understand what it is. How does it differ from conventional "read it later" services?

wantaek_lim21• 9 years ago

Thank you for your interest. Please see https://medium.com/@blog.granary/beyond-bookmarks-or-pocket-...

anothercomment2• 9 years ago

Thanks - so the main perk seems to be searchability and some social networking? Would be great if I could sample the search functionality before signing up.

Must admit I am not 100% convinced I need it - bookmarking sucks, but in Firefox I can use tags. Not as good as full comments on bookmarks, but sufficient to organize links by subjects.

LaSombra• 9 years ago

This reminds me of https://pinboard.in more than anything

jbmorgado• 9 years ago

I was seeing pinboard.io just yesterday. I save my bookmarks in DevonThink using the full webpage stored in the computer.

I now want to move completely to Linux but DevonThink is MacOS only and I was searching for something like DevonThink on Linux.

Nothing came up so the next best thing seems to be pinboard.io... but the truth is, unless I pay the premium service for archival (and then continue paying that without stoping every year to keep them archived and rely in a private service that can just be terminated at any moment by its developer) I really don't see any diference between using pinboard.io or using Firefox bookmarks.

Am I missing something here?

StavrosK• 9 years ago

You can get archival with https://historio.us/ for free (with the trial account).

Disclaimer: I wrote the service.

NoGravitas• 9 years ago

Reading down the page, granary.io does not save page snapshots, and does not provide fulltext search.

anotheryou• 9 years ago

- Does save the whole page/article in case it goes offline? (preferably time-stamped for citations)

- Does it allow full text search?

wantaek_lim21• 9 years ago

Granary.pro is a service that is started to find materials to refer to on the Internet and manage them systematically. Especially for writing documents.

I am sorry that it does not save the whole article and does not provide full text search. However, if we have user requests, we can assist these features in the near future. Though insufficient, you can leave an important part of the article in notes and search for them.

For more information, please refer to the blog below. https://medium.com/@blog.granary/available-in-granary-pro-fo... https://medium.com/@blog.granary/why-we-created-granary-pro-...

mirimir2• 9 years ago

I was wondering about that. The problem is that sites change, or even disappear. For stuff that matters, I bookmark and print to PDF. Maybe that wouldn't scale. But it would get around needing account information.

sarreph• 9 years ago

I like where this is going with search-term focussed history, but after the first two points your website copy lost me. I imagine that is crucial to convincing your audience because up until that point, use-it-later hadn't really been established on the page yet.

Then we get to this section, which I find is incredibly vague:

Make a note related to a saved link [.] Simply make a note of your thoughts on the link you saved. For example, you might want to note where this link will be used, how it will be used, and what is important.

I feel like you need to improve the specificity of both your iconography and your copy in order for your audience to understand what your product is.

I wish you luck and hope that you can make it more clear what you are trying to achieve because it seems as though it could be unique!

wantaek_lim21• 9 years ago

I appreciate for your warm interest and advice. I will take a careful look at what you have mentioned.

dmgawel3• 9 years ago

In that kind of a service Privacy Policy is a must (at least for me). Emptiness of this page alarms me: https://granary.pro/privacy

bjpbakker• 9 years ago

That exactly was the first link I clicked, then closed the site not to come back. Privacy is a thing.

afandian• 9 years ago

I was just going to say, it's refreshing to see an HTML page that renders without the help of JavaScript.

The page you linked to, however, disappointingly does require JavaScript to execute in order to show text.

wantaek_lim21• 9 years ago

The reason why the privacy policy is simple is that Granary.pro has very little personal information (Gmail address, username, links and notes, etc.) and does not use it commercially.

LudoA2• 9 years ago

The links & notes I save are private to me! It's crucial that you guarantee you'll treat that info with the privacy it deserves.

dmgawel3• 9 years ago

This is how Privacy Policy page looks on my computer: https://anonimag.es/image/JT9sncB

shmolyneaux• 9 years ago

This post is more like a first impression of the service.

This service interested me since it looked like it would be able to automatically add tags to links that I already had in pocket. But doesn't do this, but I thought I would share my thoughts.

With the uBlock Origin extension enabled on Firefox, clicking on the "Sign up free with Google" button does nothing. When searching for links I would expect that my own links would appear first rather than "Search results on Granary.pro". You should be able to move items to their folders from the search interface.

For the English version of the web site I suggest you find a native English speaker to review your content. Specific sentences that have issues are:

"If you stop importing the file into Granary.pro before complete, the processing will be stopped."

"Or do not you wonder where the web page you saved in Bookmark or Evernote is located?"

"Do you imagine the files that filled your PC desktop?"

In the help section: "How to delete my account: You may not use Granary.pro at any time. If you deletes the account, If you deletes the account, Granary.pro deletes all data associated with the account as well as the account, and the user can no longer use the deleted account."

wantaek_lim21• 9 years ago

Thank you for your detailed and friendly reviews and I wrote a brief answer below.

Unfortunately, we do not extract tags for links already stored in Pocket. However, if you save the link to the service, it will automatically extract and store your search terms.

It looks that uBlock is blocking the popup requesting third party authentication for sign up. We will solve this problem with developers.

We set the order to emphasize "Search results on Granary.pro" rather than my own links.

We will review “move items to their folders from the search interface” and apply them in near future.

I will get a review from a native speaker as soon as possible.

LudoA2• 9 years ago

The uBlock issue is quite annoying indeed, would love to give it a try without adding exceptions to uBlock.

Also, extracting tags for links stored in Pocket would be very useful. There may be tags you can't extract. E.g. I've tagged a bunch of things as "work". Please add that functionality to your Pocket importer :)

Other than that, I look forward to trying it out! I find Pocket too limited, would love something that's more powerful.

Findeton2• 9 years ago

I like it but please enhance the translations, I don't need to see it in both Korean and English at the same time.

wantaek_lim21• 9 years ago

We are sorry about your inconvenience.We will ask that native speakers will review English sentences and improve them to become natural English.

dobin• 9 years ago

I wanted to try it, but it requires a chrome plugin to save websites. Removed my account instantly.

wantaek_lim21• 9 years ago

We can not delete your account. Please delete your account by yourself from https://granary.pro/help > "How to delete my account".

swah• 9 years ago

Anything that Pocket doesn't have? Also, the free version seems to hold only 2000 items.

wantaek_lim21• 9 years ago

We are sorry that the explanation of the landing page is insufficient or not intuitive. Please see these blog posts.

https://medium.com/@blog.granary/why-we-created-granary-pro-...

https://medium.com/@blog.granary/available-in-granary-pro-fo...

Findeton2• 9 years ago

How can you move one link from one folder to another?

wantaek_lim21• 9 years ago

Please click on the link you want to move and then drag and drop it to the desired folder.

phlyingpenguin• 9 years ago

Here are my first impressions. This has some pretty serious usability issues when compared to pocket, and I'm not 100% convinced it does more, even digging into the blog notes.

Let's start at folders. The folders appear to just be categories and are exactly the same as a tag except an item can only be in one folder. This is a limitation, not an improvement. When the word folder is used, I expect that there is some way to nest items and other folders within a folder. As it is, I can "tag" or "categorize" items into one section.

In the UI, I found myself having to click A LOT. Creating ~4 "folders", I had to focus the dialog box to type every time I hit "new folder" and then click again because pressing the enter key did not submit the dialog form. I should not have to use my mouse to focus dialogs that pop up and I should not need to click to dismiss them.

Another UI woe is in mass item management. I imported my pocket bookmarks and now they're all in an unclassified "folder". I don't see any way to mass-select links and move them into categories. There is no world where I would waste my time moving items one by one to categorize.

wantaek_lim21• 9 years ago

Thank you for your deep interest and comments.

First, it is not allowed to put other folder within a folder because the service was created as simple and fast as possible. If many users ask us to support ‘other folder within a folder’, we will improve it.

Focus or Enter key issues will be improved soon.

It will take some time to select multiple links at once and move them into a folder, but it will be improved.

Thanks again.

m00dy• 9 years ago

I'm a Pocket user. I'm using it everday and it is my only bookmark-saver app. Anyway, I think the next innovation should be related to timing or reminding previous posts. Sometimes, I forget to read what I have saved before. It would be really good, If this thing could analyze my workload somehow and show me a notification or something when I'm not busy. This would be super cool.

wantaek_lim21• 9 years ago

Thank you for your feedback.

It would be nice to give an alarm for reminding you at the appropriate time. We will put it into the long-term plan of our service.

jdlyga• 9 years ago

Which version of QT does this require? :)

wantaek_lim21• 9 years ago

It seems to be related to development, I don't know what QT is because I'm not a developer. I will ask developer team tomorrow morning and give the answer if possible. It would be nice if you let me know what QT stands for.

Granary.pro – Beyond Bookmarks and Read-It-Later

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