Silicon Valley may be popular for innovation centers, but losing ground to Asia

http://venturebeat.com/2016/12/17/silicon-valley-may-be-popular-for-innovation-centers-but-its-losing-ground-to-asia/

by muzz • 10 years ago

20 17 10 years ago

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jimmywanger2• 10 years ago

What exactly is the definition of an innovation center, and why are there so few of them in the world?

There are only 7 in the silicon valley? That seems... suspect. And only 2 in Tokyo? This whole article puzzles me.

saycheese2• 10 years ago

Counts in the report are for new "innovation centers" in 2016; sources and methods for compiling the list are not provided.

jimmywanger2• 10 years ago

So I'm not attacking you, but this article, without the sources and methods is basically useless?

It might as well read "Silicon Valley may well be a 7, but Asia is on its way with a couple of 2s and 3s."

dpandey3• 10 years ago

If you interpret the title literally, it's probably true. It's not something to worry too much about, however.

Just like the rest of the world starting large universities has rarely had a negative effect on institutions like Oxford, Harvard or MIT, the rest of the world starting innovation center is unlikely to do much negatively to Silicon Valley.

Starting an 'innovation center' and actually creating lots of innovative companies (including some really large ones) are not the same thing at all. In fact, just like IITs are a great feeder into MIT or Stanford, some of the best companies outside Silicon Valley have become a feeder for the SV ecosystem.

I'm not saying it can't happen. I'm just saying quantity is not the same as quality, and quality innovation center is very hard to create without lots of quality people in all parts of the ecosystem.

devoply• 10 years ago

Silicon Valley has two major things going for it. Talent and money. Asians are intelligent and talented, if they were not they would not be pulling huge work loads in American univerisities. At this point they have lots of capital too as a result of the ascension of the economies in their respective countries. Your comparison of so-called elite universities is a false dichotomy, those work on different rules than technology. Technology does not recognize social status and all that other stuff. Technology belongs to no one and can be acquired by anyone with money and talent.

seanmcdirmid• 10 years ago

Chinese have won plenty of Nobel prizes, just not when they were in china.

It just isn't about aptitude, or even capital, but society has to be developed and free enough to let innovation happen. Where all the capital (human and financial) has accumulated (China), this simply isn't the case. We will continue to see young Chinese leaving for the west to realize their full potentials.

dpandey3• 10 years ago

Asians are intelligent and talented,

So are Europeans and Latinos and Americans and Arabs and Africans and dolphins.

The discussion isn't about race. It's about creating a culture and ecosystem of innovation. Which even other cities in the US have failed to replicate beyond modest successes.

xbmcuser2• 10 years ago

Your latest election is going to make this more possible than anything. Currently many of the most talented foriegn graduates of us universities stay in the us. But with the current xenophobia more will start leaving specially if they see someplace safer to go to.

artificial2• 10 years ago

Either enforce the laws or eliminate them. The media is fully complicit in fueling narratives with respect to immigration by conflating illegal with legal. Contrary to the spin the permanent resident and naturalization figures being double to quadruple the next country (Germany) shows America welcomes immigrants. Which countries make citizenship and owning a business easier than America?

peter303• 10 years ago

Just like the death of Moores Law. Over 50 years and counting.

vtange• 10 years ago

"The reason behind the abandonment of Silicon Valley, and even Europe, is due to the supply of talent in Asia."

- sounds like a fancy way of saying "outsourcing".

sleepingeights• 10 years ago

Silicon Valley has nothing on Asia. In China's Silicon Valley, if you have an idea and comparatively far smaller bank roll, you can have a prototype of your idea at your desk within a week.

Compare that to SV which is like a backwards feudal kingdom.

The examples of "innovation" spouted now in SV are software and service frameworks, stuff like social networking and OS, and this stuff is backed by open source work performed by people from all over the world. In the big scheme of things today's Silicon Valley's so-called "innovation" is a big loser.

edit: It makes sense that technologically capable countries pursue their own technological infrastructure rather than have to depend on and pay US corporations simply for the privilege.

All Silicon Valley really provided was to "innovate" the traditional American business model and classism into their technological infrastructure.

Silicon Valley may be popular for innovation centers, but losing ground to Asia

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