WikiLeaks releases AKP email database

by runesoerensen • 10 years ago

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dmix• 10 years ago

Have they release highlights of anything interesting?

Edit: Not able to search, I'm getting timeouts. Clearly a heavy load at launch time.

Edit 2: Wikileaks mentioned they were hit by 'cyberattacks' before the release but were still able to get it out. Maybe it's getting DDOS by some Turkish supporters. They were also apparently phished well enough to cause them to tweet this: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/755140834836832256/phot...

tmzt• 10 years ago

It would be nice if our technically-minded organizations would use more precise language, even if our government cannot.

Bromskloss6• 10 years ago

The material was obtained a week before the attempted coup. However, WikiLeaks has moved forward its publication schedule in response to the government's post-coup purges.

Unclear wording. Does moving "forward" mean to do something earlier than planned? Were we supposed to expect some other publication date when told that "the material was obtained a week before the attempted coup"?

firewalkwithme• 10 years ago

Yes

Bromskloss6• 10 years ago

Unclear wording. Which of the questions are you answering?

forgotpwtomain• 10 years ago

However, WikiLeaks has moved forward its publication schedule in response to the government's post-coup purges.

This would be considered clear wording by proficient English speakers, 'However' sets up the clause, and 'has moved forward its publication schedule in response to..' is pretty self explanatory.

Generally one does not need to write "Wikileaks had publication of the material planned for a later date than today." -- "has moved forward" implies the former.

Bromskloss6• 10 years ago

'However' sets up the clause, and 'has moved forward its publication schedule in response to..' is pretty self explanatory.

I think it requires the reader to perform an unfortunate extra step or two of inference. It seems preferable, in my humble opinion, to avoid this in situations where you want to be sure that you are expressing yourself unambiguously.

1wd• 10 years ago

If "moving forward" means "moving to an earlier date", does that mean we experience time backwards (moving to later dates)?

lucb1e• 10 years ago

You're being downvoted but I find that unfair. It's clear to me because the phrase "moving an event forward" is commonly used like this, but looking at the basic meaning of the word, it should mean the same as "postponed". (If I move something "forward", it would appear later on an agenda or other timeline.)

To answer your question:

Wikileaks moved the publication to an earlier date. They apparently wanted to release it later (probably to prepare better), but thought it was relevant because of the coup attempt.

Bromskloss6• 10 years ago

Thank you. Your reading coincides with my best guess.

Regarding clarity, I avoid using "forward" and "backward" with regards to time.

dragonwriter• 10 years ago

Does moving "forward" mean to do something earlier than planned?

Yes, conventionally, in English (well, at least, American English, and I've seen it frequently enough in British English usage that it seems to be the same there, but its at least possible that its not universal), "moving forward" the time of a planned event means moving it earlier in time, while "moving back" the time of a planned event means moving it later in time.

"Forward/back" here is similar to closer/farther from the head of queue.

johntb86• 10 years ago

cf. before and after.

asplake• 10 years ago

Bring it forward, push it back.

jsprogrammer2• 10 years ago

Site was accessible a few minutes ago. TCP connection now being reset almost immediately after request.

Edit: accessible again. Perhaps a DDOS mitigation technique?

mediocrejoker• 10 years ago

Website loaded a moment ago (17 minutes after this link was posted) but now the site is not responding.

Says they are releasing emails from mailboxes from first part of alphabet, and these are more used to communicate with the world than internally.

Hopefully server will come back soon.

edit: it loaded again, copied text from landing page

Today, 11pm Anakara Time, WikiLeaks releases part one of the AKP Emails. AKP, or the Justice & Development Party, is the ruling party of Turkey and is the political force behind the country's president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. Part one of the series covers 762 mail boxes beginning with 'A' through to 'I' containing 294,548 email bodies together with many thousands of attached files. The emails come from "akparti.org.tr", the AKP's primary domain. The most recent was sent on July 6, 2016. The oldest dates back to 2010. It should be noted that emails associated with the domain are mostly used for dealing with the world, as opposed to the most sensitive internal matters.

The material was obtained a week before the attempted coup. However, WikiLeaks has moved forward its publication schedule in response to the government's post-coup purges. We have verified the material and the source, who is not connected, in any way, to the elements behind the attempted coup, or to a rival political party or state.

knowaveragejoe• 10 years ago

Translation will be necessary of course, but for some reason Chrome isn't recognizing that the page should be translated for me(not even offering me the context menu item on selection).

Trying to search returns a 401 at the moment.

Edit: that's no longer happening.

therein• 10 years ago

Getting a 401 when trying to search.

sohrab-b• 10 years ago

Getting"401 Authorization Required" trying to reach page

oh_sigh• 10 years ago

Same - chrome is bringing up a modal username/password box for me to fill in.

jolux• 10 years ago

I'm getting a 401.

edit: it's fixed

grownseed• 10 years ago

A random, cursory look didn't yield anything particularly interesting: lots of fairly shallow emails, google groups conversations, disgruntled citizens writing in all caps and a fair bit of spam. Granted, I'm also relying on Google Translate for a lot of this, so I may well be missing something obvious.

According to Wikileaks, the release was hastened in light of recent events, so I presume they didn't have time to comb through the data. That said, I would assume this was released for a reason (i.e. some of the emails have some value), but I honestly can't tell what that might be.

viraptor• 10 years ago

cursory look didn't yield anything particularly interesting

I think that's to be expected. If it was full of easy find critical information, it would mean they filtered what's being released. This way, it's simply a dump of everything - now it's for others to dig for anything interesting.

ORioN63• 10 years ago

Why does Google Translate breaks newlines when translating? It makes really hard to read.

chronolitus• 10 years ago

You just made me realize, it's a harder problem than at first glance:

- If you translate line by line, you lose information shared between lines (state of the current sentence, etc)

"Did you stay \n

up last night?"

- A solution would be to remember where the newline was (here, after the word stay) translate the whole sentence, then add it back in. But after translation, maybe "stay up" transformed into another word entirely. "stay" doesn't exist anymore, Or it might have shifted to another place in the sentence. where do you put the newline?

- Idioms would further exacerbate this problem.

- As a result, you would need to train your translation unit (e.g. a neural net) on also intelligently carrying newlines to the translated language. This might be more work than worth the payoff.

This might or might not be the reason. Could be a simple oversight, or something entirely different.

vintermann• 10 years ago

Without knowing Turkish and knowing salient topics related to Turkish politics, of course we are not going to find anything interesting. It's a lot of research to find the stuff that might be actually interesting and relevant.

Wikileaks don't have access to any Turkish-speakers I think (at least not in the inner circle of people who might get access to unpublished submissions), so you can't assume there's something truly scandalous in there. They were released for a reason, yes, but that reason is the fairly obvious one that there was a coup attempt in Turkey right now.

It has value as research material for people studying or writing about the current political situation in Turkey, even if there are no "smoking gun"-type single documents in there.

graffitici• 10 years ago

I am also having trouble loading the site.

But shouldnt WikiLeaks be releasing this as a torrent?! Wouldn't that be much more effective, both efficiency and cost-wise?

bane• 10 years ago

It would pretty great if everything wikileaks put out was available to download. They're actually really great research corpora in theory, but they send them to their website to die.

denfromufa• 10 years ago

There is also Fuat Avni, who was exposing Turkish government for last few years with very accurate predictions:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuat_Avni

alpb• 10 years ago

Is there no way to download a dump of this leak and keep digging offline? (also started getting HTTP 500s now, search doesn't work either with HTTP 400).

sylvinus• 10 years ago

Are they claiming to have some new Clinton emails as well? https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/755501298687115264

sorpaas• 10 years ago

An initial search gave me lots of spams and malware...

beyti2• 10 years ago

for the sake of clearness, story title can be switched to "turkish government" from "AKP", since other than turkish people would not be familiar with the name "AKP"(ruling party name's acronym)

steve19• 10 years ago

The title is correct. It would be woefully incorrect to say "turkish government". Emails from the party email server have been leaked. If it had been government email servers, then government would be correct.

beyti2• 10 years ago

I'm not saying it's incorrect, it's not a well known acronym outside Turkey though. It could be "Turkey's ruling party" then in light of your comment. But it's ok if everybody's ok with it, just my thoughts.

whorleater• 10 years ago

Is there a data dump of all of this instead of Wikileak's website? Would certainly make it a lot easier to comb through.

forvelin• 10 years ago

Sadly, absolutely useless data -this batch at least-. Appearently nobody in AKP uses email but few rather nonimportant people.

WikiLeaks releases AKP email database

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