Show HN: Hyper_ – Simple and Secure Container Cloud

https://blog.hyper.sh/introducing-hyper-beta-the-native-container-cloud.html

by scprodigy • 10 years ago

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xjimmyshcn• 10 years ago

This looks interesting. So it is cloud-version of Docker swarm, right?

gnepzhao15• 10 years ago

Yes, it gives you the native docker interface, but remove the cluster mgmt.

matzipan• 10 years ago

Wait, so is this HyperContainer thing, like... a virtual machine?

gnawux• 10 years ago

yep, the containers are encapsulated by hyper container

helixone• 10 years ago

Is hypercontainer another name for an Intel Clear Container?

gnepzhao15• 10 years ago

Basically it uses a hypervisor to launch your docker image, but not a full blown VM, since there is no guest OS, like ubuntu or coreos in the VM. There is only one tiny kernel in the HyperContainer to run your Docker app.

jclulow3• 10 years ago

So there _is_ still a guest OS inside a hardware virtual machine, it's just a stripped down OS?

hangonhn• 10 years ago

"it uses a hypervisor to launch your docker image, but not a full blown VM"

I don't understand this. Isn't using a hypervisor the same as using a VM? How is this different from using VMware, Xen, etc. to run a stripped down VM with a tiny kernel inside to handle Docker?

arcticfox2• 10 years ago

This is exactly what I've been waiting for. We're currently on Tutum, and have 60 days to decide whether to migrate to Docker Cloud or a different platform. This one, on the face of it, would be much better for us.

1) Are there any competitors? 2) Can we be confident in building our business on this platform? What is the funding and stability situation of Hyper?

gnepzhao15• 10 years ago

Hi,cofounder of Hyper_ here.

1) AFAIK, this is the first secure container cloud. 2) You can play with it, but better wait till out of beta 3) We are funded :)

randylahey• 10 years ago

Could you elaborate? Joyent has been offering a production-ready (not beta) container cloud for for years.

bighead• 10 years ago

1) Joyent's Triton

gnepzhao15• 10 years ago

Yes, somewhat close. The difference here is that Hyper_ follows the native Docker interface. So working with it is the same as on your laptop.

mtreis86• 10 years ago

Just a note, the link to the github project from your website is broken. (https://blog.hyper.sh/github.com/hyperhq/hyper 404s)

gnepzhao15• 10 years ago

Cheers!

siscia• 10 years ago

Maybe I loose it, do you support high availability ? The datacenter is distributed ?

gnepzhao15• 10 years ago

1) Hyper_ offers EBS-like volume and snapshot for your container. You can failover volumes cross containers 2) Given the instance startup time, you can program the APIs to do the scaling/HA, etc. 3) Yes, think Hyper_ as a virtual container host with unlimited capacity, but under the hood, it is still a cluster of machines.

zitterbewegung• 10 years ago

I was reading the release text and you misspelled lambda AWS Lamda -> AWS lambda

nathancahill2• 10 years ago

Why are all of gnepzhao's responses downvoted? dang, is there some sort of competitor brigading happening here?

Pyxl1013• 10 years ago

Edit: (I am going to clear my comment since I'm worried that I'm being excessively critical. I respect gnepzhao for engaging honestly in this thread.)

gnepzhao15• 10 years ago

Well, the container here refers to HyperContainer or virtualized container. "run container in VM" is even more misleading, don't you think?

dang2• 10 years ago

Most of them weren't downvoted, and I don't see any brigading.

nathancahill2• 10 years ago

Thanks, a good amount of his were grayed out when this thread had ~50 points. Looks like they've balanced out now.

grncdr• 10 years ago

Just an FYI: the signup form breaks in very obscure ways if one is using an ad-blocker. It's generally a good idea to never let exceptions from analytics code break your own logic, since not everybody will (or can) disable their adblocker.

arcticfox2• 10 years ago

Got me too!

robbiemitchell• 10 years ago

The site is using Segment to assign registrations a userId. Segment is used for analytics, yes, but it's really a canonical tracker for everything from identity to logging.

Assigning userId client-side even before you hit the actual user database enables data to be sync'd anonymously across services with userId rather than email address. If you block this from running, yes, you block it from working.

In short, your ad-blocker is being overzealous.

More on this: https://github.com/superstrong-labs/pre-db-segment

jjoe• 10 years ago

I understand boot up completes in under a second but if one needs to setup an environment to do something useful, it can take several seconds. I guess what I'm getting at is why would the fast boot matter when one still needs to setup a basic environment to complete a task?

This is analogous to achieving an artificially low TTFB but actual rendering doesn't start until several seconds later.

Am I missing something?

Thanks

gnepzhao15• 10 years ago

Well, I think you made an excellent point which is hard to argue with.

But, the thumb-rule is that if the startup time is a free lunch, why not faster?

colmvp• 10 years ago

FYI: The navigation says FETAURES which I assume should be FEATURES

larryme• 10 years ago

Excited to see that here comes a way to abandon virtual machines around my docker containers

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