Bumping into Stallman, again

https://www.fredericjacobs.com/blog/2016/02/02/stallmanism/

by selimthegrim • 10 years ago

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Thomas_Lord3• 10 years ago

It is still valuable to ask people not to use the term "open source", and to explain why.

The free software movement is a liberation movement. As we have seen in the ~30 years since the movement started, when users are not allowed examine, modify, and share the software runs on their computers that software is used against them. Proprietary software is all about gaining power over users. It is not a theory anymore. It is an overwhelming, proved fact.

The "open source" brand was created to combat the liberation movement. The people who devised the "open source" name and promoted it oppose the free software movement. The "open source" founders set out to advance the cause of gaining power over users.

The free software movement fights for freedom. The "open source" instigators wanted to interfere with that fight, to distract people from it, and above all, to make it harder for the libre software movement to gain technical advantages over proprietary software.

EvanPlaice3• 10 years ago

founders set out to advance the cause of gaining power over users

I'd argue that GNU set out to advance the cause of gaining power over developers. Specifically, to place arbitrary legal restrictions on software so devs who use it are forced to buy into the ideology of GNU.

The ironic thing about FLOSS is that it acts counter to the ideals of libre. There's no freedom in restricting how open source code is developed. In short, it enforces exclusivity.

It's intended for developers who want to maintain ownership of any/all development of the code they produce. To remain the de-facto benevolent dictators for life whether or not that is good for the health of a project.

RMS didn't create GPL out of some greater sense of altruism. Watch his talks about the early days before GPL. He created it in spite of the developers he worked with who moved on to industry. Stallman never moved on to industry and has spent a lifetime hiding away in academia and/or making a living off of awards and public speaking appearances where he preaches his ideology as canon.

You know who doesn't make a living from FLOSS? the thousands of contributors who helped make his projects the success they are today. Funny how RMS never acknowledges their effort.

Hurd will never deliver on it's promises and instead GPL piggy-backed on the success of linux to the point where (from a legal standpoint) both are essentially inseparable.

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As for 'open source'...

True freedom is allowing others to extend/improve the code for their own uses. I prefer 'open source' because it fosters the degree of freedom that the GPL only superficially claims to promote.

If others find value in my contributions and leadership then they'll support my projects and the direction I take. If somebody comes along that does a better job, so be it. That just means I probably have more room for improvement.

Removing one's ego from the process creates something much more valuable. An inclusive environment where others can join in, grow together, and move on to better things in life if they find the opportunity.

belorn• 10 years ago

I'd argue that GNU set out to advance the cause of gaining power over developers

Power that is shared equally is not held "over" anyone. Share-and-share alike is not power, its equality.

The ironic thing about FLOSS is that it acts counter to the ideals of libre

According to which philosophy? John Locke (1632–1704) rejected several hundred years ago the notion that liberty should have no restrictions.

Thus, freedom is not as Sir Robert Filmer defines it: 'A liberty for everyone to do what he likes, to live as he pleases, and not to be tied by any laws.' ... Freedom of nature is to be under no other restraint but the law of nature. Freedom of people under government is to be under no restraint apart from standing rules to live by that are common to everyone in the society and made by the lawmaking power established in it. Persons have a right or liberty to (1) follow their own will in all things that the law has not prohibited and (2) not be subject to the inconstant, uncertain, unknown, and arbitrary wills of others

Rules that are common to everyone are not power, and its not counter to the ideals of libre. Shield me against the inconstant, uncertain, unknown, and arbitrary wills of others, and I will have liberty. Proprietary licenses and DRM are frameworks that arbitrary limits who can modify the software, who can read it, and who can use and share it.

Thomas_Lord3• 10 years ago

Regarding "True freedom is allowing others to extend/improve the code for their own uses."

Can I correctly conclude, then, that you are enthusiastically supportive of people who violate copyright by making and giving away gratis copies? A fan of people who violate EULAs by reverse engineering? Approving of anyone brave enough to defy trade secret laws?

I am always a little surprised at the earnestness with which the counter-libre "open source" propaganda embraces as freedom a handful of very artificially erected rights that rest on state brutality and nothing else.

Further, that in the "open source" view, to resist that state brutality in order to protect users, share, and study power -- these are supposedly acts against freedom.

re: "True freedom is allowing others to extend/improve the code for their own uses. I prefer 'open source' because it fosters the degree of freedom that the GPL only superficially claims to promote."

What is clear is that you promote your freedom to rob others of freedom, with the help of state violence.

The freedom you advocate is a negative freedom: a bondage you want to (or want your employer to) impose on others.

haneefmubarak• 10 years ago

Does Stallman realize that many a time, his jokes and comments simply aren't appropriate? Making fun using the fact that someone committed suicide, especially so recently, goes far beyond crass. It's absolutely despicable.

Personally, I'm all for people having freedom of speech such that they can say what they wish. However, there is a time and place for everything. If Stallman (or anyone, for that matter), had said such a thing privately among a few of his like-minded friends and it had leaked out, it wouldn't really matter. However, when he is repeatedpy given a stage to say such things from, it looks as if event organizers either don't care about the image they portray (bad), or that they support such ideas and behavior at their events (worse).

Bumping into Stallman, again

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