Graal.js: High-Performance JavaScript on the JVM by Christian Wirth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUo3BFMwQFo

by jerven • 11 years ago

16 7 11 years ago

jerven2• 11 years ago

The great team keeps on surprising me in nice ways. If this js and java integration works as nice as demonstrated we could use a js frontend on our java backend without going via json objects over the wire but in one process.

jjn2009• 11 years ago

this appears to be the main benefit, bringing node code closer to existing java based stacks.

brudgers• 11 years ago

Graal uses the OTN licence.

It states:

License Rights We grant You a revocable, nonexclusive, nontransferable, royalty-free and limited right to (a) use one (1) copy of the binary portions of the Programs and any Supplemental Programs for the sole purpose of internal non-production and non-commercial evaluation and testing of the Programs, including, developing no more than a single prototype of each of Your applications; and (b) if provided by Us at our sole discretion, view the source code portions of the Programs internally for the purposes of evaluation and testing only (collectively, “Authorized Use”).

All rights not expressly granted above are hereby reserved. If You want to use the Oracle Technology for any purpose other than as permitted under this agreement, including but not limited to distribution of the Oracle Technology or the application You develop or any use of the Oracle Technology or the application You develop for Your internal business purposes (other than the Authorized Use), You must obtain a valid Oracle license permitting such use.

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/licenses/early-adopter-lic...

vdnkh• 11 years ago

(a) use one (1) copy of the binary portions of the Programs and any Supplemental Programs for the sole purpose of internal non-production and non-commercial evaluation and testing of the Programs, including, developing no more than a single prototype of each of Your applications;

How could someone with any dev experience think this is reasonable, let alone enforceable?

jerven2• 11 years ago

You can get most of this with the gpl2 plus classpath exception at the university of linz site. Or the relevant openjdk repository. the other version has autovectorisation and this graal.js. But the team hopes to opensource that too. So once it's production ready the license will change to the standard oracle jdk or openjdk one as you wish.

http://lafo.ssw.uni-linz.ac.at/builds

EvanPlaice• 11 years ago

Well... That's a deal breaker.

It reads like:

"We need free beta testers and early adopters to depend on our software. Later we'll charge exorbitant licensing fees when it's put into production or sue them out of existence."

Considering the Google/Java court battles. I wouldn't touch anything made by Oracle with a 20 foot pole.

bmc7505• 11 years ago

According to Christian Wirth, they are, "working on open sourcing it." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUo3BFMwQFo&t=522

Graal.js: High-Performance JavaScript on the JVM by Christian Wirth

Related Stories