Introducing YouTube HTML5 Supported Videos

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by blasdel • 17 years ago

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kilian2• 17 years ago

It's a shame they're not offering ogg theora (thus excluding firefox) but a step in the right direction nonetheless!

zokier2• 17 years ago

The shame is on Mozilla being so bullheaded and not implementing h264 and other parts MPEG4 standard.

(and this has been discussed over and over...)

kilian2• 17 years ago

I wouldn't agree. The choice between a patent-encumbered h264 or an improving open standard?

If you read this part: http://www.diveintohtml5.org/video.html#licensing it becomes clear that h264 isn't really a viable option for an open web. You will have to start paying licensing fees by 2011 if you use the h264 codec. Now I'm not against paying for good things, but paying $2500+ per year per video doesn't sound too attractive...

furyg3• 17 years ago

Our support for HTML5 is an early experiment, and there are some limitations. HTML5 on YouTube doesn't support videos with ads, captions, or annotations [...]

I think I speak for everyone when I say: YouTube... do not fix these bugs!!!

IgorPartola2• 17 years ago

From http://www.youtube.com/html5:

  # Videos with ads are not supported (they will play in the Flash player)
  # Fullscreen is not supported

So, no they should fix these bugs.

jrnkntl• 17 years ago

ClickToFlash just became obsolete for Youtube for me.

IgorPartola2• 17 years ago

I wonder what Adobe will have to say about this. As a Firefox user, I am out of luck with no h264 support. It's interesting that the only two browsers that don't support Theora are Safari and IE, which makes the choice of h264 as the standard a bit odd to me.

mrkurt• 17 years ago

I would bet that Youtube already has h264 encoded videos, which means no re-encoding to support this.

spatulon• 17 years ago

They do. The HQ setting on Youtube uses H264 baseline profile (notice how they introduced this around the time of the iPhone launch), and the HD setting uses H264 as well.

marbletiles• 17 years ago

I'm expecting a post from their paid Flash commenter (I'm sorely tempted to say professional troll, given some of his recent posts) jon dowdell saying something mocking about Ogg, then adding that HTML 5 is purely for minority browsers, and Adobe is fully focused on helping businesses and advertisers connect rich internet content with their customers in innovative and engaging ways.

(Translation: Flash will always rule, we're betting the company against Apple-Google-Mozilla, and the rest of the internet may hate us, but it won't matter because IE and Windows will dominate forever)

Meanwhile, those of us using "minority" browsers and Macs will do to Flash exactly what we did to Real.

jdowdell• 17 years ago

Not classy, but then, that's what pseudonyms are for.... ;-)

(I was sort of relieved to see YouTube take the beta off... brings the conversation down from the clouds and into reality.)

billpg• 17 years ago

Can captions be supported with HTML5 videos? I could live without annotations, but I wouldn't want to lose captions.

Bill, I see deaf people.

CWIZO• 17 years ago

You can implement that with regular HTML/Canvas/SVG on-top of the video. That's the beauty of the whole thing. I do wonder if full-screen will be supported someday.

ZeroGravitas4• 17 years ago

Yes. There's some working demos available which aim to explore this area so it can be standardised:

http://blog.gingertech.net/2009/10/06/new-proposal-for-capti...

AndrewDucker2• 17 years ago

Is there a way to add additional video support into Firefox through an addon?

ZeroGravitas4• 17 years ago

Short answer, no.

This is an evil plot or noble attempt (delete as appropriate) by Mozilla to promote royalty free audio and video standards on the web over popular standards with patent fees.

protomyth2• 17 years ago

Are we really, really sure that no one is lurking with a patent?

noamsml• 17 years ago

Is it just me, or are the YouTube html5 videos of degraded quality on the Linux Chrome beta?

tensafefrogs• 17 years ago

The player doesn't let you change video size/quality, so you might be seeing the lower res versions.

megaman821• 17 years ago

Could h264 support be added to Firefox with a plugin? Windows and Mac OS have the ability to natively play h264 videos, perhaps there is a way for FF to hook into that and not have to worry about any h264 licensing fees.

blasdel• 17 years ago

No, they belligerently designed their <video> and <audio> implementations to make that incredibly difficult to do without forking the whole project.

They link directly with liboggplay instead of using a library like ffmpeg (Chrome), gstreamer (Opera), Quicktime (Safari), or DirectShow (IE, eventually). They don't even support any other container formats! I hope their heads fall off.

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