Surgeon stationed in Antarctica removes his own appendix (1961)

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/339/dec15_1/b4965

by hegemonicon • 17 years ago

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jhgfgbhn2• 17 years ago

Wasn't this posted here in 61?

aarongough4• 17 years ago

That is crazy. I don't think I would have the stomach for that myself, but I guess being a surgeon already would help.

I remember a related story of and Aussie medic imprisoned in a Japanese POW camp successfully removing the appendix of a fellow prisoner with only a shard of broken glass.

Personally, I just hope I am never in a position like that.

pavel_lishin2• 17 years ago

The survival must have mostly been luck - what are the odds of not becoming horribly infected?

What did the surgeon use for sutures, anyway?

aarongough4• 17 years ago

I can't remember if it was mentioned in all honesty. There's no real reason that the incision need get infected if they were very careful.

If I remember correctly the medic sterilized his instruments, himself and the patient with alcohol or some sort of solvent.

I have a friend who lived in the Yukon (north edge of Canada) for many years. He slashed his leg open with a knife accidentally while working one day, but he was a day or so away from medical care. He just cleaned it and then sutured himself up using a needle and dental floss. He eventually got to a hospital, the doctor told him he had done just fine!

CWuestefeld• 17 years ago

In your glass shard story, I'm not sure what would be worse, being the doctor or being the patient. I don't want to be on either side!

bad_user• 17 years ago

Removing the appendix I guess one could do with a broken glass ... but how did he closed the wound?

PatrickTulskie• 17 years ago

Didn't Jack do that on Lost?

mrduncan• 17 years ago

In 2003, hiker Aron Ralston amputated his own arm with a pocket knife after a boulder fell and pinned him down.

http://hike.mountainzone.com/2003/news/html/030502_amputate-...

jodrellblank• 17 years ago

"Ines Ramírez Pérez is a peasant woman living in rural Mexico. She had no medical training, but nevertheless performed a successful Caesarean section on herself: both she and her baby survived"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In%C3%A9s_Ram%C3%ADrez

aarongough4• 17 years ago

I remember being seriously grossed out the first time I read that story. And, yep. It still grosses me out now!

colbyolson• 17 years ago

That story still gives me the chills when he describes how he cuts into the dead flesh of his arm and the gases hiss out of the cut. Ew x 10.

frossie• 17 years ago

Many years ago (early 90s?) I looked into a job in Antarctica. The job stipulated that you had to preventatively remove your appendix prior to your tour of duty to avoid exactly this situation. I believe they also wanted you to replace your dental fillings (replacing the metal with a composite substance) to avoid problems caused by the cold (I assume).

It was all rather irrelevant to me in the end since I discovered that at the time the British Antarctic Society did not accept women (I believe this has since changed).

jhgfgbhn2• 17 years ago

They do have women now - I don't know what they remove as a precaution !

(Since 1996 they grudgingly allowed 2 women at the base - while releasing lots of PR about how go ahead they were for promoting women in this way!)

aarongough4• 17 years ago

The peace corp require the same thing. I believe they also require you have your wisdom teeth taken out...

I guess prevention is the best defense!

quizbiz• 17 years ago

I just want to point out that based on personal experience last week, preventative surgery to remove your appendix is no longer preformed.

electromagnetic• 17 years ago

Sheer amazing. I wonder how his vitals would have compared to a regular appendectomy? Were his vitals concurrent with an appendectomy performed so late (literally the day before it would have burst), were they better because he was focused on the task at hand, or was his vitals worse? It's a shame we'll likely never know and there'll likely never be another auto-appendectomy performed.

jyothi• 17 years ago

There have been many cases of self-surgery under extreme circumstances. Coincidentally stumbled upon a list of 10 incredible ones. http://listverse.com/2008/12/09/top-10-incredible-self-surge...

Evgeny• 17 years ago

Which I submitted a couple of days ago but it did not become noticed

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1049663

jrockway• 17 years ago

This leads to a related question. Assuming you're in a situation where it's your best option, what's the best way to kill yourself without tools? I assume dying of dehydration / exposure is not particularly enjoyable, and a set of circumstances might exist where it would be better to get it over with...

(See below for the link to the guy that cut his arm off to avoid dying. I don't think I would be able to make it through the bone, so I would like to have this option filed away in case I need it some day :)

DenisM• 17 years ago

Bite off your tongue and you will bleed to death. Especially valuable advice if you're tied up.

mynameishere• 17 years ago

Brings up memories of one of the best CGA games ever:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_&_Death

Surgeon stationed in Antarctica removes his own appendix (1961)

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