Tell HN: Guess what Baidu and Yahoo China have already censored?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1050795

by profquail • 17 years ago

45 24 17 years ago

news.ycombinator.com

Step #1: Visit www.baidu.com or cn.yahoo.com.

Step #2: Search for Google or blogspot.com. Note that both work.

Step #3: Now search for google.blogspot.com.

Step #4: Enjoy your Baidu lockout. You should be able to search again in 5-10 minutes, I haven't timed the duration exactly.

Source: http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1508260&cid=30746302

nailer• 17 years ago

google.cn has already unfiltered results concerning the Tiananmen massacre.

So the government may block access to google.cn if it hasn't already.

abstractbill• 17 years ago

google.cn has already unfiltered results concerning the Tiananmen massacre

Are you claiming google.cn has already changed their filtering though? Just fwiw, from what I understand you would need to use a Chinese IP address if you wanted to properly verify that.

potatolicious• 17 years ago

Actually, google.cn filtered results for everyone before - so yes, it's possible they've only disabled filtering for foreign IPs, but I fail to see why they would.

lostintech4• 17 years ago

I am located in China. I can confirm you that i see the uncensored results when searching for images with "Tienamen"

http://images.google.cn/images?hl=zh-CN&um=1&newwind...

Screenshot : http://hotelcostantiga.com/specials/censor.jpg

lostintech4• 17 years ago

Further proof : http://images.google.cn/images?hl=zh-CN&um=1&newwind...

Screenshot : http://hotelcostantiga.com/specials/censor2.jpg

orblivion• 17 years ago

Wait seriously? They're giving that big a finger to China?

profquail• 17 years ago

Examples:

http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&source=hp&q=fal...

http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&q=tiananmen+square+...

personamb• 17 years ago

Actually, if you search for "Tiananmen" you do still get filtered results.

Searching "Tianamen" (note the missing "n") is not filtered, though. I wonder if this was a purposeful loophole in Google's filtering, or an engineering mistake.

http://images.google.cn/images?hl=zh-CN&um=1&sa=1... http://images.google.cn/images?hl=zh-CN&um=1&sa=1...

Timothee• 17 years ago

I noticed that too yesterday when trying to see if google.cn was in fact uncensored and mistyped it "tienanmen".

est2• 17 years ago

No, it's the just the mass illusion from westerners for spelling "TianAnMen" wrong.

hop• 17 years ago

Had never been to Baidu.com before. Wonder where they got their inspiration for that UI...

sgk284• 17 years ago

When I was working at Google in 2007 the DNS in China would redirect Google to Baidu every now and then. Can't point fingers at who was making the changes... but it usually coincided with the U.S. doing something China didn't like. Talk about irritating.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if China blocked Google all together, made a clone of Google's UI, and powered searches on Google through Baidu.

jeromec2• 17 years ago

Well, since we control the root servers maybe we can fight fire with fire and have some fun with China. We could randomly allow innocent (to the Chinese govt) sites to be redirected to free speech and human rights activist sites.

est2• 17 years ago

Umm, Hi yahoo

http://web.archive.org/web/20020331055621/http://www.baidu.c...

SapphireSun• 17 years ago

I am astounded. The server actually dropped my connection when I tried searching for it!

gojomo• 17 years ago

I believe this is one of the main techniques of the Great Firewall -- once it detects a connection is disfavored, inject a few spoofed packets to break the connection. It's cheaper than being a full participant in the stream.

bwh2• 17 years ago

I tried it and got locked out. But if you remove "www" completely or replace it with "www1", you're back in.

lostintech4• 17 years ago

It doesn't matter, because you cannot access blogspot from china. Even the google official blogs, you can't access. Even state.gov. And you know what ? during the days Obama was here in China, the NyTimes was censored, and they did not unblock it until recently. And it is the Great Firewall blocking everything. Google is beyond this. They can do nothing. The PRC Committee controls this. What a shame

ced• 17 years ago

Note that you'll also get blocked out if you type in:

   http://poorlytyped.blogspot.com/2010/01/haskell-ray-tracing-parallel.html

from which one can conclude that the Chinese are being kept in the dark from Haskell's enlightenment.

All blogspot websites have been blocked for at least the 6 months that I've been here, and I doubt that Baidu has anything to do with it. There's nothing new here. There's also a ton of workarounds. I just use vtunnel.com.

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